Most of your tags are redundant and may actually hinder people finding your music: This is already in the "music" art category, and everything on this entire site is a "free" "pack" of some kind. Redundant tags are routinely removed. see https://opengameart.org/content/art-tags for some effective tagging tips. The only tags not redundant currently are "background", "loop", and ".ogg"
Just fyi, the "2D" tag is redundant; this is already in the 2D art category. Such tags are routinely removed.
Unfortunately the red cross on a white background is actually a trademarked symbol. Would you be willing to change the color scheme or use a different symbol for the helmet_medic.png and any other instances of the red cross symbol? Until then I have to mark this with a licensing issue (only temporary :)
Thanks for your willingness to look into things like this. Sorry we have to be so strict about the origins of assets. I saw that you were in contact with the other artists, so I was hoping you were able to ask them if they derived their art or made it from scratch. That is generally sufficient.
However, if that is not something you're willing to ask, let me know and I will (regretfully) take this down.
Yeah, I also tend to shy away from CC BY-SA. I don't want to make the author angry even if it is legally allowed to go against what they were going for.
@Bobjt: that is rarely true. SA license requires any derivatives of the asset to be -SA, but game code and separate asset collections are almost never considered derivatives of the asset.
Often authors intend this to be the case, so out of respect for the author's wishes, it is advised you ask the author directly if there is any ambiguity, but the -SA license being viral to the entire project would require the project to be set up in such a way that it absolutely cannot exist if the asset were omitted (i.e. there is no way to swap out the asset in question with alternate assets)
Psychronic: "Icy Dragon is now on board! So anything involving the crystals is all good now."
Not quite:
Medicinestorm: "someone who tells you you can use them for whatever you want is irrelevant if that person didn't make it from scratch."
We don't really need to know if Icy Dragon is ok with us using the crystals. That was clear based on the link you included earlier. we need to know if he made it from scratch or not. Please address all of the following questions. We cannot proceed until these are addressed:
Are you certain that Strange_Dragon_99 did not derive, modify, or use as a guide any of the crystals from the RTP?
Are you certain that UPRC did not derive, modify, or use as a guide any of the consoles from the RTP or other games?
While you were making the tilesets together, are you certain that Cossio did not derive, modify, or use as a guide any of the tileset graphics from the RTP or other artwork not entirely his own?
(P.S. The tags on all of your submissions so far are unsearchable. They will need commas between the words for people to be able to find the artwork. See https://opengameart.org/content/art-tags for some effective tagging tips)
Are you certain that Strange_Dragon_99 did not derive, modify, or use as a guide any of the crystals from the RTP?
Are you certain that UPRC did not derive, modify, or use as a guide any of the consoles from the RTP or other games?
While you were making the tilesets together, are you certain that Cossio did not derive, modify, or use as a guide any of the tileset graphics from the RTP or other artwork not entirely his own?
Remember, someone who tells you you can use them for whatever you want is irrelevant if that person didn't make it from scratch. It doesn't matter what license Strange_dragon_99, UPRC, and Cossio give it. If there is another license they don't understand that came first, it invalidates their license (yes, saying "this has no license" or "just do whatever as long as you give me a copy" is still a license. It's an implicit license like Basto was saying).
Lots of people take RTP graphics, modify them, and share them thinking as long as they're modified enough, they're allowed to tell people they can be used freely. I believe those people honestly believe they can be used for whatever we want. That isn't enough. We need to know the art's full provenance. We must know how they made them so we can be sure they're not misunderstanding the license. If you didn't make it pixel by pixel, who did you get the other parts from. If they didn't make it pixel by pixel, where did they get the other parts from?
Thanks for your help with this. Sorry I have to be such a stickler about it.
Good point, Basto. Though I don't think the issue is really about replacing the art in his game with properly licensed artwork. As far as I can tell, this artwork is all legally usable in the starshift game (except for the wallpaper/portrait stuff). The issue is which art is legally share-able on OGA?
Nice.
Most of your tags are redundant and may actually hinder people finding your music: This is already in the "music" art category, and everything on this entire site is a "free" "pack" of some kind. Redundant tags are routinely removed. see https://opengameart.org/content/art-tags for some effective tagging tips. The only tags not redundant currently are "background", "loop", and ".ogg"Thanks!
Adorable!
Just fyi, the "2D" tag is redundant; this is already in the 2D art category. Such tags are routinely removed.Unfortunately the red cross on a white background is actually a trademarked symbol. Would you be willing to change the color scheme or use a different symbol for the helmet_medic.png and any other instances of the red cross symbol? Until then I have to mark this with a licensing issue (only temporary :)Thanks!
Thanks for your willingness to look into things like this. Sorry we have to be so strict about the origins of assets. I saw that you were in contact with the other artists, so I was hoping you were able to ask them if they derived their art or made it from scratch. That is generally sufficient.
However, if that is not something you're willing to ask, let me know and I will (regretfully) take this down.
Looking forward to your future artwork!
Nice! Thanks for the extra file. The easier it is to edit, the more people can use it.
Yeah, I also tend to shy away from CC BY-SA. I don't want to make the author angry even if it is legally allowed to go against what they were going for.
@Bobjt: that is rarely true. SA license requires any derivatives of the asset to be -SA, but game code and separate asset collections are almost never considered derivatives of the asset.
Often authors intend this to be the case, so out of respect for the author's wishes, it is advised you ask the author directly if there is any ambiguity, but the -SA license being viral to the entire project would require the project to be set up in such a way that it absolutely cannot exist if the asset were omitted (i.e. there is no way to swap out the asset in question with alternate assets)
Not quite:
We don't really need to know if Icy Dragon is ok with us using the crystals. That was clear based on the link you included earlier. we need to know if he made it from scratch or not. Please address all of the following questions. We cannot proceed until these are addressed:
Pretty good. How were these made?
(P.S. The tags on all of your submissions so far are unsearchable. They will need commas between the words for people to be able to find the artwork. See https://opengameart.org/content/art-tags for some effective tagging tips)
@Psychronic:
Remember, someone who tells you you can use them for whatever you want is irrelevant if that person didn't make it from scratch. It doesn't matter what license Strange_dragon_99, UPRC, and Cossio give it. If there is another license they don't understand that came first, it invalidates their license (yes, saying "this has no license" or "just do whatever as long as you give me a copy" is still a license. It's an implicit license like Basto was saying).
Lots of people take RTP graphics, modify them, and share them thinking as long as they're modified enough, they're allowed to tell people they can be used freely. I believe those people honestly believe they can be used for whatever we want. That isn't enough. We need to know the art's full provenance. We must know how they made them so we can be sure they're not misunderstanding the license. If you didn't make it pixel by pixel, who did you get the other parts from. If they didn't make it pixel by pixel, where did they get the other parts from?
Thanks for your help with this. Sorry I have to be such a stickler about it.
Good point, Basto. Though I don't think the issue is really about replacing the art in his game with properly licensed artwork. As far as I can tell, this artwork is all legally usable in the starshift game (except for the wallpaper/portrait stuff). The issue is which art is legally share-able on OGA?
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