well on that subject, the maya hieroglyphs i derived this from were reproduced in a book published in 1914. and from reading the book it appears the reproductions come not only from codices but from the author's own studies of stelae and maya ruins. from all my research all works published in the united states before 1927 (except sound recordings) are now in the public domain in the u.s. so the reproductions made by morley sylvanus griswold were under his copyright when the book was published in 1914. the copyright was never renewed by his estate. he died in 1948. 1948 + 70 = 2018, so in most places in the world this work would be public domain anyways.
cornell university library says anything published in the u.s. before 1927 is public domain. but world wide the situation is different. however, if a given work was never published in a given country, then the copyright law of that country does or does not apply? i am doubtful that the book was published in afghanistan for instance, though i've not researched publication of this particular work beyond the u.s.
@bzt "Only if you're about to distribute your work outside of the U.S., otherwise it's enough if you only comply with the U.S. law. But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
by putting something on the world wide web i am defacto distributing my work world wide, right? i not asking this question to be a contrarian or sarcastic.
since my derivatives come from someone who made reproductions in 1914, and not derivative of aforementioned codices, i am beholden to the copyright of the book containing the reproductions published 1914. i am safe in the u.s. for sure, but i still have doubts about my rights in regards to "world wide" distribution.
@bzt "But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
"substantial addition" or "substantial modification" ?
ie
original pd work from old book:
my derivative asset:
so the other question then becomes: if the work i am using to make derivative is in the public domain in the u.s. then it has to be public domain worldwide for me to be able to publish my derivatives under a creative commons license? and if i can't publish my derivatives can i still use them as part of my creative work?
it seems that the "public domain" is not very useful to the public if it can't be used by the public.....
this is an interesting question. i don't want to cloud up the comments on this asset, but what about old books from project gutenberg? they are likewise public domain in the U.S. (for different reasons)
i'm gonna start a forum thread to discuss this topic.
sweet. i am totally into the retro fps thing right now, so if you do work in that style i would definately use it. there is a quite a bit of decent stuff on oGA for retro fps games, but most is very specifically DOOM clone. it would be quite awesome to see some different styles.
and thank you for not referring to retro fps games as "boomer shooters." ;)
personally i am all for stuff that is cc0 as well, it is the most useful and free license, and lets me release my derivatives as cc0 which is important to me.
i am planning to use your monochrome sprites to make some colored and crudely animated derivs, but i been caught up in other projects so i haven't put my hand to it yet.
keep up the good work gaymoo! whatever you do i am sure it will be awesome. we can never have too much good art @ OGA!
thank you kindly for the input. i do realize none of us are lawyers, but it is helpful to hear other perspectives to help make the best choices
well on that subject, the maya hieroglyphs i derived this from were reproduced in a book published in 1914. and from reading the book it appears the reproductions come not only from codices but from the author's own studies of stelae and maya ruins. from all my research all works published in the united states before 1927 (except sound recordings) are now in the public domain in the u.s. so the reproductions made by morley sylvanus griswold were under his copyright when the book was published in 1914. the copyright was never renewed by his estate. he died in 1948. 1948 + 70 = 2018, so in most places in the world this work would be public domain anyways.
cornell university library says anything published in the u.s. before 1927 is public domain. but world wide the situation is different. however, if a given work was never published in a given country, then the copyright law of that country does or does not apply? i am doubtful that the book was published in afghanistan for instance, though i've not researched publication of this particular work beyond the u.s.
@bzt "Only if you're about to distribute your work outside of the U.S., otherwise it's enough if you only comply with the U.S. law. But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
by putting something on the world wide web i am defacto distributing my work world wide, right? i not asking this question to be a contrarian or sarcastic.
since my derivatives come from someone who made reproductions in 1914, and not derivative of aforementioned codices, i am beholden to the copyright of the book containing the reproductions published 1914. i am safe in the u.s. for sure, but i still have doubts about my rights in regards to "world wide" distribution.
@bzt "But in this case you can relax, these are public domain worldwide for sure."
ocd = never relaxed ;P
"substantial addition" or "substantial modification" ?
ie
original pd work from old book:
my derivative asset:
so the other question then becomes: if the work i am using to make derivative is in the public domain in the u.s. then it has to be public domain worldwide for me to be able to publish my derivatives under a creative commons license? and if i can't publish my derivatives can i still use them as part of my creative work?
it seems that the "public domain" is not very useful to the public if it can't be used by the public.....
submitting the sprites as a single sheet makes them more useful in my opinion
this is an interesting question. i don't want to cloud up the comments on this asset, but what about old books from project gutenberg? they are likewise public domain in the U.S. (for different reasons)
i'm gonna start a forum thread to discuss this topic.
not really. they all read pretty well and have the fun vibe. keep it up!
wicked
@Commander " ..exciting pulse of vacuum around us. Plus sound of dark Space .., Total Master(..wings). "
I love the things you say. I don't understand them, but I love them. :D
sweet. i am totally into the retro fps thing right now, so if you do work in that style i would definately use it. there is a quite a bit of decent stuff on oGA for retro fps games, but most is very specifically DOOM clone. it would be quite awesome to see some different styles.
and thank you for not referring to retro fps games as "boomer shooters." ;)
personally i am all for stuff that is cc0 as well, it is the most useful and free license, and lets me release my derivatives as cc0 which is important to me.
i am planning to use your monochrome sprites to make some colored and crudely animated derivs, but i been caught up in other projects so i haven't put my hand to it yet.
keep up the good work gaymoo! whatever you do i am sure it will be awesome. we can never have too much good art @ OGA!
rotation is good.
the flap i think needs another frame.
the one on the left, not sure... is it a dog? it doesn't really read. keep on WIP'ing tho, i love your monochrome sprites from the other thread!
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