i was actually just thinking of the nft craze when i was thinking of the ai art topic earlier today.
a year ago nft's were the big thing and ai art was just this neat algorithm that churned out weird dreamlike figures.
now nfts are pretty much recognized as a total crock of dookie that no legit artist or developer want to taint their projects by associating with (look at the universal backlash when godot got funding from an nft gamification company)
here is what i could find on the site for sound effects. https://opengameart.org/content/sfx-for-potential-fantasy-card-game . i unfortunately wasn't able to find much for magic spell sounds. plenty of attacks, human pain and death, and monster sounds, though not sure any of them would be good for dragons.
i would love to see it. the most obvious issue is with different attribution requirements.
creating a dataset from all of the cc0 art on the site could be do-able, but with the sheer amount of data needed by these algorithms to be able form anything coherent would mean the results would likely amount to a pixelated-blob-generator.
but if someone in the community is python-proficient, i would be willing to contribute in whatever way i could. i don't know how to code in python, but could be part of the data curation with tagging and whatnot.
i do agree that firefly is a step in the right direction. i also agree that it will become a core part of many or most artist's workflow.
and let us say that ai is actually intelligent. i disagree, but let's just say that it is. and that it will continue to grow moreso, able to do more things that only humans can do now. what then? if all human jobs are replaced by machines, and we have nothing left to do for gainful employment, what then? money will be meaningless if humans don't have it they won't spend it. i suppose it could lead to the dystopian future of the people who already have money will just become even more powerful, and the people who do actual work will just starve and die. i don't think that is what will happen though. the rich need us to buy their crap. if they don't have people to buy their crap, then their money and power will run out.
my sincere hope is that robots do take all of our jobs, and we can just do the things we love for free. we still make art, we still love one another and eat tastey food, and the economy becomes meaningless because our intelligent but not-conscious robot slaves do all the work for us.
i have devolved into pure speculation, but none of us really knows what the future holds. but if we analyze the state of things right now, the reality is that current ai algorithm are only capable of imitating the stuff in it's dataset. no humans to put new art into the dataset? then no new art. i don't think this is speculation, it is just how these algorithms work, it is what they do. deep learning models need us to learn from. if we stop doing things for them to learn from, then they will just keep churning out the same crap.
i might sound anti-ai, but i'm not. i use it in personal projects. i would love for ethical datasets (ie legal and not stolen and scraped) based on open content that i could make part of my workflow. if i was able to do this, i would probably be able to submit more useable art to oga, because my art skills are primarily based on creating derivative works. so i guess i am not intelligent or creative either, just imitative. maybe i am a robot.
quaternius' last oga submission was in june of 2021, which was publish on their website may 2021. since then they have released 13 more cc0 asset packs on their website but have not been submitting them to oga.
no thats fine, i was just thinking your tickle monster seems like a fun project to try to do, but my art skills are mostly geared around modifying existing assets and creating derivatives.
that monster as a nes-style pixel art, i could probably manage. realistic painting or somesuch. nope.
and your project unfortunately doesnt sound like something i would want to get behind or have my name associated with :) good luck tho
what art style are you going for with this monster?
i agree with your point that ai isn't good with this type of thing. that's because ai art generators are not intelligent or creative. they are simply imitative. humans are intelligent and creative, so an art algorithm can only imitate that human intelligence and creativity. your monster concept was created by an intelligent being, and you require an intelligent being to make it come to life.
that art concept given to a decent fiverr artist, i bet you could get a good result for around 30 bucks. granted, you are trying to not pay any money, and that makes it harder.
but depending on what art style you are going for, i am willing to help and maybe contribute to your project. i am not a great artist, but i am a free one.
my only question is your statement that it contains nsfw content. what does that mean? i will not participate in pornographic content creation, or contribute to a project that is sexist or that causes what i see as social harm. gratutious violence and adult humor i am ok with.
i love the way the disk goes into the drive when you load
i cant help with icons though, 8x8 is just too small for me
will be watching your project tho, looks really cool from the demos!
i was actually just thinking of the nft craze when i was thinking of the ai art topic earlier today.
a year ago nft's were the big thing and ai art was just this neat algorithm that churned out weird dreamlike figures.
now nfts are pretty much recognized as a total crock of dookie that no legit artist or developer want to taint their projects by associating with (look at the universal backlash when godot got funding from an nft gamification company)
here is what i could find on the site for sound effects. https://opengameart.org/content/sfx-for-potential-fantasy-card-game . i unfortunately wasn't able to find much for magic spell sounds. plenty of attacks, human pain and death, and monster sounds, though not sure any of them would be good for dragons.
i would love to see it. the most obvious issue is with different attribution requirements.
creating a dataset from all of the cc0 art on the site could be do-able, but with the sheer amount of data needed by these algorithms to be able form anything coherent would mean the results would likely amount to a pixelated-blob-generator.
but if someone in the community is python-proficient, i would be willing to contribute in whatever way i could. i don't know how to code in python, but could be part of the data curation with tagging and whatnot.
i do agree that firefly is a step in the right direction. i also agree that it will become a core part of many or most artist's workflow.
and let us say that ai is actually intelligent. i disagree, but let's just say that it is. and that it will continue to grow moreso, able to do more things that only humans can do now. what then? if all human jobs are replaced by machines, and we have nothing left to do for gainful employment, what then? money will be meaningless if humans don't have it they won't spend it. i suppose it could lead to the dystopian future of the people who already have money will just become even more powerful, and the people who do actual work will just starve and die. i don't think that is what will happen though. the rich need us to buy their crap. if they don't have people to buy their crap, then their money and power will run out.
my sincere hope is that robots do take all of our jobs, and we can just do the things we love for free. we still make art, we still love one another and eat tastey food, and the economy becomes meaningless because our intelligent but not-conscious robot slaves do all the work for us.
i have devolved into pure speculation, but none of us really knows what the future holds. but if we analyze the state of things right now, the reality is that current ai algorithm are only capable of imitating the stuff in it's dataset. no humans to put new art into the dataset? then no new art. i don't think this is speculation, it is just how these algorithms work, it is what they do. deep learning models need us to learn from. if we stop doing things for them to learn from, then they will just keep churning out the same crap.
i might sound anti-ai, but i'm not. i use it in personal projects. i would love for ethical datasets (ie legal and not stolen and scraped) based on open content that i could make part of my workflow. if i was able to do this, i would probably be able to submit more useable art to oga, because my art skills are primarily based on creating derivative works. so i guess i am not intelligent or creative either, just imitative. maybe i am a robot.
quaternius' last oga submission was in june of 2021, which was publish on their website may 2021. since then they have released 13 more cc0 asset packs on their website but have not been submitting them to oga.
no thats fine, i was just thinking your tickle monster seems like a fun project to try to do, but my art skills are mostly geared around modifying existing assets and creating derivatives.
that monster as a nes-style pixel art, i could probably manage. realistic painting or somesuch. nope.
and your project unfortunately doesnt sound like something i would want to get behind or have my name associated with :) good luck tho
what art style are you going for with this monster?
i agree with your point that ai isn't good with this type of thing. that's because ai art generators are not intelligent or creative. they are simply imitative. humans are intelligent and creative, so an art algorithm can only imitate that human intelligence and creativity. your monster concept was created by an intelligent being, and you require an intelligent being to make it come to life.
that art concept given to a decent fiverr artist, i bet you could get a good result for around 30 bucks. granted, you are trying to not pay any money, and that makes it harder.
but depending on what art style you are going for, i am willing to help and maybe contribute to your project. i am not a great artist, but i am a free one.
my only question is your statement that it contains nsfw content. what does that mean? i will not participate in pornographic content creation, or contribute to a project that is sexist or that causes what i see as social harm. gratutious violence and adult humor i am ok with.
i believe that particular submission was deleted by the author
to me it seems fairly simple:
inspiration = "i see something cool, i want to try and make something like that"
derivative = "i see something cool, i am going to use it to make something else out of it"
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