@MikeeUSA: It wasn't deleted. It was unpublished. Something I offered to undo if you'd be willing to separate the political parts of the submission. It was only unpublished after 4 days from when I asked for the political components to be separated. It was unpublished because your only response to my request was to make additional political and religious comments. Not because I disagree with your political view, but because discussion of politics and religion (in any view, including mine) are not allowed on OGA.
It wasn't silent; I sent a copy of the following comment to you via the site's automatic notification system:
@MikeeUSA: I am not familiar with the events you're referring to regarding claims that your work doesn't exist. I think you should definitely get credit where credit is due.... but breaking the rules of a community that tries to help with that is not the best way to do it.
I am not against discussing religion or politics. I'm against discussing them here.
I would never claim your work doesn't exist, but it won't exist here if you remain unable to separate your work from the discussion of religion or politics.
I was hoping for a response that indicated a bit more willingness to compromise. I have to remove this submission for now because it is firmly in the territory of discussing politics and religion, but I'm willing to discuss your concerns and frustrations if you would like to PM me. http://opengameart.org/messages/new/3656?destination=user/3656
The offer is still on the table if you'd be willing to keep the politics separate. I can restore the original submission if you'd like. It even has the audacity file. You'll notice I haven't "censored" your resubmission either. Mostly because that one actually has most of the political stuff removed... which is all I was asking for in the first place, man.
Hold a grudge if you want, but you'll be holding it against a fan of your work.
Like everyone who's posted here so far, Snabisch is a fairly regular submitter and participates in this community. I agree most of his comments are unneccessary, but he's generally friendly and receptive to polite, constructive criticm. :)
@MikeeUSA: I am not familiar with the events you're referring to regarding claims that your work doesn't exist. I think you should definitely get credit where credit is due.... but breaking the rules of a community that tries to help with that is not the best way to do it.
I am not against discussing religion or politics. I'm against discussing them here.
I would never claim your work doesn't exist, but it won't exist here if you remain unable to separate your work from the discussion of religion or politics.
I was hoping for a response that indicated a bit more willingness to compromise. I have to remove this submission for now because it is firmly in the territory of discussing politics and religion, but I'm willing to discuss your concerns and frustrations if you would like to PM me. http://opengameart.org/messages/new
I'd love to put this post back if you'd be willing to move the political parts to your personal site or the like. :)
EDIT: The discussion of politics and religion have been removed per MikeeUSA. Submission republished. :)
Some people have specific ways they want to be credited, like "include a link to my page www.artistspage.corn", but if no attribution instructions are included, displaying the track name + the artists name/handle + the license on your credits page is usually sufficient.
"Raging Turtle Attack song by Vincent Babylon CC-BY 3.0" or whatever.
EDIT: The discussion of politics and religion have been removed per MikeeUSA. Submission republished. :)
This is great and all, but the description is certainly political. I have no comment on either side of this sort of political discussion, but OGA generally tries to stay out of (or separate from) politics. There was a similar set of submissions a while back (on the opposite side of this political topic, so please do not feel I'm going after this because of which side it leans) and bart had to get involved. He was rather pissed he had to come be the parental figure when the discussion got childish.
I would link to it, but ultimately it was taken down since political discussion isn't allowed on OGA (and by extension, political submissions "skirt the line" of that rule.)
Would you be willing to make the submission here politically agnostic? I don't think there's a problem if you want to link to your own page where you suggest lyrics for the song (maybe?) but I'm guessing it's going to get heated quickly and I'd rather avoid a political flame war here on OGA.
This isn't a demand. Just a friendly request at this point. As bart said:
"I respect your right to express yourself politically, and I believe that if video games are to be taken seriously, then games and the art contained therein need to be able to used for political expression. On the other hand, I'm faced with a bit of a juggling act with this kind of thing, because ultimately too much of this kind of thing will turn the community toxic..."
Nope. You're free to share any track or composition you make in FL studio. Since you aren't using any samples or segments from other artists, they're are entirely yours and can be licensed how you wish.
My opinion is that grinding is fine as long as its requirement is relatively low. I imagine as the difficulty of the encounters increase, the skill required of any given military unit must also increase in order for that unit to continue overcoming the battles. The reasonable skill level of each unit can be charted as a curve. The line represents what a unit's skill level should be at any point in the progression of the game in order to achieve a stalemate. If a unit's skill is below the curve, they will probably lose more battles than they're winning. If above the curve, that unit can be expected to win more battles then he loses.
If the player does no grinding at all (spends only the time absolutely required in combat to move on to the next battle, ignoring all optional combat encounters), they should start falling under the curve. This will require the player to do some grinding in order to level up their troops enough to be above the curve. I don't think it should take very much grinding to put their troops above the curve, though. If they must voluntarily spend 50% more time in optional encounters in order to have enough extra experience to fall above the curve, they'll probably get sick of grinding pretty fast. Even requiring as little as 10% extra time grinding seems small enought that they will value the extra work and challenge, but not feel it gets monotonous.
This is pretty close to infringing on the Dragon Ball IP. If it is a LSW character, it is definitely not compatible with an open license. If it's just inspired by LSW stuff, maybe not, but in legal terms, I feel like this still falls under "substantial similarity".
I think this is genuinely intended to be a separate character and is not truly a derivative of any copyrighted works, but its inspiration is still dangerously close. I'd advise caution when using or producing these sorts of assets.
@MikeeUSA: It wasn't deleted. It was unpublished. Something I offered to undo if you'd be willing to separate the political parts of the submission. It was only unpublished after 4 days from when I asked for the political components to be separated. It was unpublished because your only response to my request was to make additional political and religious comments. Not because I disagree with your political view, but because discussion of politics and religion (in any view, including mine) are not allowed on OGA.
It wasn't silent; I sent a copy of the following comment to you via the site's automatic notification system:
The offer is still on the table if you'd be willing to keep the politics separate. I can restore the original submission if you'd like. It even has the audacity file. You'll notice I haven't "censored" your resubmission either. Mostly because that one actually has most of the political stuff removed... which is all I was asking for in the first place, man.
Hold a grudge if you want, but you'll be holding it against a fan of your work.
EDIT: @Moderators for reference: http://opengameart.org/content/keyboard-jam-session-keyboardjamsession2016
Like everyone who's posted here so far, Snabisch is a fairly regular submitter and participates in this community. I agree most of his comments are unneccessary, but he's generally friendly and receptive to polite, constructive criticm. :)
@MikeeUSA: I am not familiar with the events you're referring to regarding claims that your work doesn't exist. I think you should definitely get credit where credit is due.... but breaking the rules of a community that tries to help with that is not the best way to do it.
I am not against discussing religion or politics. I'm against discussing them here.
I would never claim your work doesn't exist, but it won't exist here if you remain unable to separate your work from the discussion of religion or politics.
I was hoping for a response that indicated a bit more willingness to compromise. I have to remove this submission for now because it is firmly in the territory of discussing politics and religion, but I'm willing to discuss your concerns and frustrations if you would like to PM me. http://opengameart.org/messages/newI'd love to put this post back if you'd be willing to move the political parts to your personal site or the like. :)EDIT: The discussion of politics and religion have been removed per MikeeUSA. Submission republished. :)
Yes. :)
Some people have specific ways they want to be credited, like "include a link to my page www.artistspage.corn", but if no attribution instructions are included, displaying the track name + the artists name/handle + the license on your credits page is usually sufficient.
"Raging Turtle Attack song by Vincent Babylon CC-BY 3.0" or whatever.
EDIT: The discussion of politics and religion have been removed per MikeeUSA. Submission republished. :)
This is great and all,
but the description is certainly political. I have no comment on either side of this sort of political discussion, but OGA generally tries to stay out of (or separate from) politics. There was a similar set of submissions a while back (on the opposite side of this political topic, so please do not feel I'm going after this because of which side it leans) and bart had to get involved. He was rather pissed he had to come be the parental figure when the discussion got childish.I would link to it, but ultimately it was taken down since political discussion isn't allowed on OGA (and by extension, political submissions "skirt the line" of that rule.)
Would you be willing to make the submission here politically agnostic? I don't think there's a problem if you want to link to your own page where you suggest lyrics for the song (maybe?) but I'm guessing it's going to get heated quickly and I'd rather avoid a political flame war here on OGA.
This isn't a demand. Just a friendly request at this point. As bart said:
Nope. You're free to share any track or composition you make in FL studio. Since you aren't using any samples or segments from other artists, they're are entirely yours and can be licensed how you wish.
Cc0 and CC-BY are both accepted on OGA. :)
My opinion is that grinding is fine as long as its requirement is relatively low. I imagine as the difficulty of the encounters increase, the skill required of any given military unit must also increase in order for that unit to continue overcoming the battles. The reasonable skill level of each unit can be charted as a curve. The line represents what a unit's skill level should be at any point in the progression of the game in order to achieve a stalemate. If a unit's skill is below the curve, they will probably lose more battles than they're winning. If above the curve, that unit can be expected to win more battles then he loses.
If the player does no grinding at all (spends only the time absolutely required in combat to move on to the next battle, ignoring all optional combat encounters), they should start falling under the curve. This will require the player to do some grinding in order to level up their troops enough to be above the curve. I don't think it should take very much grinding to put their troops above the curve, though. If they must voluntarily spend 50% more time in optional encounters in order to have enough extra experience to fall above the curve, they'll probably get sick of grinding pretty fast. Even requiring as little as 10% extra time grinding seems small enought that they will value the extra work and challenge, but not feel it gets monotonous.
I'd give this game a try. :)
I believe I can help.
What music are your compositions based on?
This is pretty close to infringing on the Dragon Ball IP. If it is a LSW character, it is definitely not compatible with an open license. If it's just inspired by LSW stuff, maybe not, but in legal terms, I feel like this still falls under "substantial similarity".
I think this is genuinely intended to be a separate character and is not truly a derivative of any copyrighted works, but its inspiration is still dangerously close. I'd advise caution when using or producing these sorts of assets.
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