I do agree with you about the learning experience. I too saw many sketchbooks that started off with very child like attempts that progressed over several years to flipping amazing. I know im probably spelling his name wrong but algenpfleger's sketchbook was legendary.The sketchbook section was my favorite. I also liked the artists workspace picture thread that had everyones artists setup posted. It wasnt updated often but I liked browsing that thread from time to time.
I figured it was around that time or earlier because I fist visited the site when I was in my early 20s and now I am 43. It was a long time anyway. It was not my intention to get into a pissing contest with you. It was also not my intention to suggest you are a liar though when I read what I wrote now I see how I could have worded it differently. You clearly know a lot more about the history of the people involved than I do. I actually have a download of marko dju i believe it was his perspective class that I bought online from massive black when they first started with digital rather then cd. My time at concept art was not consistent. I started there in the beginning learning to draw then left for several years to persue programming instead. Later I came back to see things slowly falling apart and a lot of banned threads from the arguing back and forth between people. My time there wasnt consistent enough to say what you brought up didnt play any part of it either. Its just the politics and the constant arguing really stand out to me. I stayed with programming most of my life and only went back to drawing later. Now i am more interested in drawing again. At this rate im going I Guess I will be doing my fundamentals up until im 70.
i was a member of conceptart.org over 15 years at least Although I left maybe a year before it closed. I was there during the peek of many professional people leaving the site in what seemed like herds. Concept art died long before it shut down. It still had users but it was shell of what it used to be and most of the professionals had left.
the real reason conceptart failed was politics. Also the owner tried to cash in on the website by creating the company massive black and making several parts of the site paid. there was a ton of friction between the users of concept art and the company massive black Big names that visited the site began to leave because the site no longer was the site it used to be. there was massive tension and friction between the users and even more big names began to leave causing a trend of people leaving the site. There is a lot more to it but it boils down to polictics and friction between the user base and owner all piled togther with the direfction of the website was going..saying the website died because of a changing industry is just wrong and false.
I agree about the daunting part. I have been using c++ on and off for years but its still hard for me to understand how everything is put togther. I know the syntax of c++. I understand loops and functions and classes and all that stuff but figuring out how a program works is not easy for me. I can see the classes and read the functions knowing what is happening seperately sort of speak but that doesnt mean I understand the entire program works as a cohesive whole especially without documenattion. If it has documentation Im usually ok but ive never been able to figure out projects of any size worth noting if it has no documentation. This is one of the reasons why I am slowly drifting away from programming and learning more about art. My mind has always been more artsy than numeric anyway.
Oops Looks like our posts stamped at the same time. I didnt realize there was a response already.
I just tried to visit his page and its showing it as not found. I think he was banned or suspended. Either way his page is gone.
Glad I could help. ITs a great site for sure and scratches the conceptart.org itch.
there is another website worth checking out called crimson daggers. I've been visiting there since conceptart shut down. http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/index.php
I do agree with you about the learning experience. I too saw many sketchbooks that started off with very child like attempts that progressed over several years to flipping amazing. I know im probably spelling his name wrong but algenpfleger's sketchbook was legendary.The sketchbook section was my favorite. I also liked the artists workspace picture thread that had everyones artists setup posted. It wasnt updated often but I liked browsing that thread from time to time.
I figured it was around that time or earlier because I fist visited the site when I was in my early 20s and now I am 43. It was a long time anyway. It was not my intention to get into a pissing contest with you. It was also not my intention to suggest you are a liar though when I read what I wrote now I see how I could have worded it differently. You clearly know a lot more about the history of the people involved than I do. I actually have a download of marko dju i believe it was his perspective class that I bought online from massive black when they first started with digital rather then cd. My time at concept art was not consistent. I started there in the beginning learning to draw then left for several years to persue programming instead. Later I came back to see things slowly falling apart and a lot of banned threads from the arguing back and forth between people. My time there wasnt consistent enough to say what you brought up didnt play any part of it either. Its just the politics and the constant arguing really stand out to me. I stayed with programming most of my life and only went back to drawing later. Now i am more interested in drawing again. At this rate im going I Guess I will be doing my fundamentals up until im 70.
i was a member of conceptart.org over 15 years at least Although I left maybe a year before it closed. I was there during the peek of many professional people leaving the site in what seemed like herds. Concept art died long before it shut down. It still had users but it was shell of what it used to be and most of the professionals had left.
the real reason conceptart failed was politics. Also the owner tried to cash in on the website by creating the company massive black and making several parts of the site paid. there was a ton of friction between the users of concept art and the company massive black Big names that visited the site began to leave because the site no longer was the site it used to be. there was massive tension and friction between the users and even more big names began to leave causing a trend of people leaving the site. There is a lot more to it but it boils down to polictics and friction between the user base and owner all piled togther with the direfction of the website was going..saying the website died because of a changing industry is just wrong and false.
I agree about the daunting part. I have been using c++ on and off for years but its still hard for me to understand how everything is put togther. I know the syntax of c++. I understand loops and functions and classes and all that stuff but figuring out how a program works is not easy for me. I can see the classes and read the functions knowing what is happening seperately sort of speak but that doesnt mean I understand the entire program works as a cohesive whole especially without documenattion. If it has documentation Im usually ok but ive never been able to figure out projects of any size worth noting if it has no documentation. This is one of the reasons why I am slowly drifting away from programming and learning more about art. My mind has always been more artsy than numeric anyway.
there was no copy or paste involved and it still refused to post.
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