Well, i think making 3D models is the least needed tutorial, since blender tutorials are something you can find easily around. About modifying them, i guess that could make for a nice tutorial, its actually very easy, since the models are made in a very lazy way (but overly clever and fast).
Havent you guys considered about creating a real guide of "How to´s" for the game? the one in the wiki is hard to understand. Starting from the easiest and going to the most complex; maybe it just needs to present the current tutorials into a simplier way, or going from creating a character to making a simple campaign.
I feel Flare just needs a flashing campaign to be more popular; and overall be more accesible so more people try to do their own.
That would also be appreciated, this game lacks practical tutorials really bad; i had a hard time trying to understand spreedsheet making and still have many doubts. Its not accesible to newbies at all.
Rubberduck that is simply gorgeous!! i love what you are doing, doesnt feel like its even the same game; any chance of you uploading a video of the tileset on use?
= > Template is the version as close as what I want to find.
Is it right???
Not really, im sorry to tell you this, but you are not going to find anything that lets you make your game painlessly, you are going to need a lot of everything and unless you have a fortune to spend on comissions you will have to take matters into your hands and learn how to do a bit of everything (or get a partner to share the load) even after buying one of those.
Im not telling you to stop, just to get ready because you need to put effort, the pre-mades from before will speed you up, but not teach anything outside of them (if you want to add some skill that is not integrated you will have no frigging idea how to).
So, you can decide which of those 3 are best for you, the closest to your idea, and maybe buy; or surf the net and you will find tutorials or free pre-fabs (Unity), If you are willing to learn you can skip the money spending, takes more time, but its free and more satifying. In my experience you will always find things for free, Unity is very popular and has tons of tutorials.
One things all newbies do (I included) is thinking making games is an easy thing, its NOT, its hella difficult with lots of needed skills, there are college studies for it. My suggestion? start small, learn to make the separated pieces and then put them together.
AS for Unity ot Unreal, i cant tell, i have only used Unity before, but people say Unreal has tons of premade scripts available, things is you will learn actual programming with Unity, i dont know of the usefulness of Unreal scripts out of it.
In this case, leaving tutorial aside, the other 3 are the same thing. Out of this context they are totally different things.
They are selling a premade "blank game" base, you have to build upon. Outside of those links, as a very rough description, a framework is the basic frame needed for a game (Unity or Godot are integral solutions, in the old days you had to piece together graphics, sounds, text... a true hell), a teamplate lets you create and store a "master" class of something you can copy/paste and modify ingame as needed (Wall definition-> Stone wall, wood wall... as a silly example) and toolkit is something created to make editing easier, like the level editor of some games.
Thats a very loose definition but i think easy to understand.
Gunz, this community is a slow one, just give some time and people will answer if the topic is interesting.
Regarding your question, i think 3d is superior since you can turn any model into a 2D one, have plenty of free models around and far more versatility.
Here is 2 examples of 3D to 2D:
Flare: all models are made by turning 3D into 2D spritesheets with a painless script.
A game about becoming a necromancer starting from a rejected novice, with gritty stuff like having to harvest "ingredients" by killing stuff, then throwing them into a pot and see what abomination comes out. Dont forget nasty spells and a land to conquer, all with lots of dark comedy and genre mockery.
I have only seen a game that did it in an interesting manner, and it was cancelled.
Well, i think making 3D models is the least needed tutorial, since blender tutorials are something you can find easily around. About modifying them, i guess that could make for a nice tutorial, its actually very easy, since the models are made in a very lazy way (but overly clever and fast).
Havent you guys considered about creating a real guide of "How to´s" for the game? the one in the wiki is hard to understand. Starting from the easiest and going to the most complex; maybe it just needs to present the current tutorials into a simplier way, or going from creating a character to making a simple campaign.
I feel Flare just needs a flashing campaign to be more popular; and overall be more accesible so more people try to do their own.
That would also be appreciated, this game lacks practical tutorials really bad; i had a hard time trying to understand spreedsheet making and still have many doubts. Its not accesible to newbies at all.
Rubberduck that is simply gorgeous!! i love what you are doing, doesnt feel like its even the same game; any chance of you uploading a video of the tileset on use?
Im not related to the dev team, but it would be nice for the project to get some traction. Thanks for your help, whatever month is good.
Hi, for the next event, can i suggest one? "MAKE SOMETHING FOR FLARE", be it characters, cutscenes backgrounds, music or campaigns.
The game deserves a lot more noise and fame.
= > Template is the version as close as what I want to find.
Is it right???
Not really, im sorry to tell you this, but you are not going to find anything that lets you make your game painlessly, you are going to need a lot of everything and unless you have a fortune to spend on comissions you will have to take matters into your hands and learn how to do a bit of everything (or get a partner to share the load) even after buying one of those.
Im not telling you to stop, just to get ready because you need to put effort, the pre-mades from before will speed you up, but not teach anything outside of them (if you want to add some skill that is not integrated you will have no frigging idea how to).
So, you can decide which of those 3 are best for you, the closest to your idea, and maybe buy; or surf the net and you will find tutorials or free pre-fabs (Unity), If you are willing to learn you can skip the money spending, takes more time, but its free and more satifying. In my experience you will always find things for free, Unity is very popular and has tons of tutorials.
One things all newbies do (I included) is thinking making games is an easy thing, its NOT, its hella difficult with lots of needed skills, there are college studies for it. My suggestion? start small, learn to make the separated pieces and then put them together.
AS for Unity ot Unreal, i cant tell, i have only used Unity before, but people say Unreal has tons of premade scripts available, things is you will learn actual programming with Unity, i dont know of the usefulness of Unreal scripts out of it.
In this case, leaving tutorial aside, the other 3 are the same thing. Out of this context they are totally different things.
They are selling a premade "blank game" base, you have to build upon. Outside of those links, as a very rough description, a framework is the basic frame needed for a game (Unity or Godot are integral solutions, in the old days you had to piece together graphics, sounds, text... a true hell), a teamplate lets you create and store a "master" class of something you can copy/paste and modify ingame as needed (Wall definition-> Stone wall, wood wall... as a silly example) and toolkit is something created to make editing easier, like the level editor of some games.
Thats a very loose definition but i think easy to understand.
Gunz, this community is a slow one, just give some time and people will answer if the topic is interesting.
Regarding your question, i think 3d is superior since you can turn any model into a 2D one, have plenty of free models around and far more versatility.
Here is 2 examples of 3D to 2D:
Flare: all models are made by turning 3D into 2D spritesheets with a painless script.
https://opengameart.org/content/charging-minotaur
Blender Script: Very interesting one
https://www.blendswap.com/blend/7825
Also, on this page you can find lots of resources, but they are not anime style.
https://opengameart.org/content/flare-portrait-pack-number-one
https://opengameart.org/content/32x32-icons-flare-compatible
Gunz, that style exists, i have played a few of those, mostly on handheld consoles:
DS:
Heroes of Mana
Spectral Force Genesis
PSP:
Generation of Chaos
(these ones up there are not exactly Beat Em Up)
XBOX: Kingdoms under fire (3D but awesome game)
Sega Saturn: Dragon Force
Actually the closest one to your dream is Kingdoms under fire(the first 2 ones), but its not 2D
A game about becoming a necromancer starting from a rejected novice, with gritty stuff like having to harvest "ingredients" by killing stuff, then throwing them into a pot and see what abomination comes out. Dont forget nasty spells and a land to conquer, all with lots of dark comedy and genre mockery.
I have only seen a game that did it in an interesting manner, and it was cancelled.
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