bluecarrot16's WIP LPC tilesets/collections
Hi all,
I've had a lot of LPC tilesets in various states of flux on my hard drive for a long time now. I've realized it takes me probably too long to get them out there, so I was inspired by Zabin to start this thread and post some of my WIP tilesets. Hopefully I can get feedback and prioritize sets to finish. I know AntumDeluge is working on converting a lot of assets for Stendhal, so hopefully I can also try to target things I'm already working on to his needs.
My interest (for some reason) is in creating thematic compilations of related assets, then filling in the gaps with similar-styled art, or remixing pieces that are already included. For this reason, all the images in this thread likely include multiple other contributors work, and should not be used until I have had a chance to properly attribute them. Don't download images from this thread and use them!
With that out of the way, I'd be happy to get your feedback and suggestions :) First images to come shortly...
I'm not a huge fan of the blue glass, but that's probably more of a personal preference.
I'd only just started to experiment with filled versions when I stopped working on mine, so I'm sure there are improvements that could be made.
Hey, I really like yours! I see we arrived at a similar solution for the red bottles. I'm conflicted because I feel like some of the default LPC colors are kind of drab (especially the non-water blues), so I like adding stuff that's more colorful. On the other hand, using the water blues makes them look kind of bubbly and a little too cartoony. I might try recoloring the blue bottles using your color scheme and we can see if they look better.
do all of the tiles for mountians v6 have uses ? some of the LPC mountians grass, sand, dirt, snow Have tiles that don't seem to connect anything else or at least any thing else useful / from the set .
They should! Although I admit they are kinda confusing... Which tiles are you having trouble with specifically (can you post an image showing which ones)? Have you looked at the example map in tiled.zip from the original submission?
tiles #1 don't seen to connect anything on the outer most right-left sides
Tiles #2 seem to have no sitituation to to be used.
Tiles #3 $4 and #5 I'm gussing are for diagonal / isometric cliffs or cliff on ramps? These are not used in the test map?
Tiles #6 I get the uses for these but why are the tops black?
Numbers 3 are for creating diagonal ramps that let you scale the cliff. Personally I'm not overly fond of these, but I don't have any alternative suggestions for what to replace them with to get the same functionality.
Evert is right; 4 and 5 are for the same purpose (for ramps leading to the top).
1 is for transitioning from the top of the cliff to another terrain.
I admit 2 is not really very useful, because there is a tile missing with the bottom- and top-edge of a cliff in the same tile.
I'll try to post an example later, but hopefully this gives you an idea.
Are there any examples of the cliff ramp tiles being used I tried making some cliffs with them but the perspective didn't look right.
There are some examples in the Source of Tales map, starting about half-way up: http://www.sourceoftales.org/talesworld/ . I'm hoping to make an example map at some point which shows all the tiles in use.
It was interesting to see that cliff ramps come in from the sides rarther than the front like i though they did. I think the main problem with cliffs is they have no shadows. I made some cliff shadows ( by making the cliffs soild tops black and removing the edges (I plan to adjust the alpha in game). I'm trying figure out how to use. But since I'm procedurally making the cliffs in game the challange is still there.
So, I was wondering: what's the status of the Victorian decorations and the food containers?
I was working on my game (read: perusing and downloading OGA artwork) and noticed that these are not included in one of the available downloads (or they're hidden somewhere where I can't find them).
To which submission are you referring?
--Medicine StormThey're mentioned/shown up thread. The Victorian decorations are alongside the Medieval decorations, which have a release (https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-medieval-village-decorations). The victorian ones do not (nor do the containers that appear in the last post dealing with the food items).
I was wondering if there are any current plans to release those as submissions as well.
Yeah dude! I do have plans to post both the Victorian decorations and the containers. After the last post I kept tinkering with them both and then got distracted by other things and never posted them. I should go ahead and post what I have though---I'll try to do that in the next few days.
YUS!
--Medicine StormAlso if you have more ideas for containers or town decorations... let me know ;-)
No specific ideas for containers (that seem to be missing) or for town decorations at the moment.
I do have a recolour of the LPC pot, although you seem to have several of those already, so I don't know how useful it is.
Actually, come to think of it, I do have an idea for another type of collection: one with various types of rocks, megalithic objects and ruins. I'm reorganising my tilesets and I have quite a few of those in there, and browsing for what I may be missing I realised that there is no "proper" collection of those yet.
Hey, that's a nice pot! I feel like I kinda suck at colors and I'm not super happy with the pots I have. I still haven't finished the containers because I got sucked into a hole making all kinds of glassware. But I think I'm out of ideas and I really should stop, so I'm gonna do a little reorganizing and then upload that. For the victorian decorations I just want to make a preview and then I'll upload that as well.
As for the rocks, do you mean something like this? ;-) Been sitting around a while because there are some inconsistencies in the shading and general style that I'd like to iron out, but I should probably release that as well. If you know of anything I've missed please let me know! BTW there's also an overlay with snow for all the rocks.
I don't have any ruins or manmade rocks in here. I feel like that would probably be a separate set; the only LPC ruins I'm aware of are in Skorpio's shump, but I'm not a huge fan and would want to rework significantly. From that set the only things that I think could stylistically fit are the Moai heads.
Wow! You fulfilled that request fast. :D
I'm anxious to get started using the food and the other LPC additions, but hesitant to begin before it's all officially released. Could I bug you to submit sooner rather than later? I wouldn't worry about the "perfect" submission; there's an edit button for good reason. :)
Speaking of glassware, I'm trying to find/make/commission a good set of pixel(ish) art for a set of (al)chemical apparatus. SoCay got me started and now I can't get the idea of a really bad@$$ alchemy game out of my head.
I like the idea of a glass set since I could put various colored and bubbling liquids as a background sprite and layer the semi-transparent glassware over them.
Would you be interested in making some glass...?
* Aludel and/or reflux column ("bulb fractionating column")
* mixing flask ("Erlenmeyer flask")
* funnel (and maybe a paper filter to go in it... or a wire-mesh sieve)
* alembic
* boiling flask (round bottom, thicker glass)
* coiled condenser tube ("Graham condenser")
* receiving flask (also round, but smaller, thinner-walled than a boiling flask, and
with 2 spouts instead of 1)
* coldfinger
* hand-cranked centrifuge (not glass) that spins some vials (those are glass)
I could also use some non-glass apparatus like a cauldron, crucible, calciner, furnace, mortar & pestle, and even a hand-cranked (or steam-powered!?) ball-mill. I'll leave those aside for now. I can provide more details on the concept if you (or anyone) is interested. I'll see if I can put together some cash for this, too. :)
--Medicine StormWe are so on the same wavelength already... See the attached preview (BTW there's an alternate glass style based on BenCreating's submission earlier in this thread, and the green contents are a separate overlay layer so there are empty/filled versions and you can change the contents colors separately). So yeah, alchemy stuff is what got me distracted. I haven't done things like centrifuges, balances, hourglasses, etc. because they're not "containers," but I think a separate alchemy set with all that stuff and maybe more glassware would be dope and would be happy to work together on.
I will try to upload the "containers" tonight! The food is already released though!
Oh, and I forgot to mention the copper alembics!
HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS?
--Medicine StormYes. Yes, I did mean something quite exactly like that for the rocks.
I was tinkering with a couple of Lost Garden and Hyptosis tiles last night, trying to get the colour count down and matching the LPC style, which is a pain (or I just suck at it). It never looks quite right when I try to do that. You seem to have done a good job of it though.
I have the attached rocks (also by Hyptosis) also sitting in my collection, but I haven't tried to adjust the palette on those yet.
I understand the reasoning behind ruins or man-made objects going in a separate set. The thing is, there aren't actually that many of them. I thought there were a couple of obelisk like elements, crumbled walls and some megalithic structures (dolmen, menhirs) to find, but I came up empty. Looks like I was mistaken! Arguably though, some of those items in the rock set look like dolmen or menhirs.
Skorpio's set is indeed the main one that has any ruin-like objects in it, but I'm also not very fond of the main part of it, it looks too bland grey. Part of the issue may also be that it's not actually pixel art (they're LPC-styled vector graphics) which doesn't translate to detailed pixel art when rendered. I do like the Moai heads and columns that are in there (and some of the rocks, but you have those already). Attached are the recolours and cleanups I did of those.
@MedicineStorm, Haha, it's seriously just coincidence; I had already made all that stuff when you made your post.
@Evert, Awesome! Yes, fixing the colors is a hassle. I usually do the very dumb and simple thing of importing into GIMP, changing to an indexed palette and adjust until it has a reasonable number of colors (usually 7 or 8); I find this works pretty well for a first pass, but then most of the time is spent cleaning up places where the original was stylistically different (different light source, different shading, or a color ramp with different lightness steps). I hadn't noticed those rocks by Hypotosis, thanks for pointing them out! I also see there are even a few more than that; I'll see about adding those.
I am learning lots of new words here! Agree some of the rocks in the set could be used as megalithic structures (top row, 4th from left is menhir-like, the big one in the middle from Hyptosis is probably the remains of a dolmen).
yeah that's exactly the problem with Skorpio's set. I had a separate set trying to clean it up (and also added some tiles from IvanVoronoi's Slate set), unsuccessfully I think; attached here.
If I were doing a new "ruins" set, I would probably use my castle tileset as the base and make waist-high, crumbled versions of the walls; that way you could have partially-ruined castles or larger ruined structures. Other stuff to include could be more megaliths like you mentioned (obelisks, Taulas, earth-covered/intact menhirs), statues (like the stuff in the bottom right of Zabin's version of Lost Garden).
I suppose I should throw these guys in as well. They're "statues", but could be adapted to a ruined set by adapting them into decayed versions.
Cool! Are those your work? I have a handful of other statues in my medieval decorations, and I believe AntumDeluge was collecting some more.
Containers are submitted! There is still much to be done... Please share any feedback! https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-containers
Interesting, it seems that the site decided to eat my post.
Anyway, those statues are derived from other assets, namely IndigoFenix' Jade Cyclops (https://opengameart.org/content/jade-cyclops) and RedShrike's Imp (https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-imp) and Dark Soldier (https://opengameart.org/content/dark-soldier-for-valyria-tear). The Imp and Cyclops are just recolours, but the Dark Soldier needed some more editing. The original was 33 pixels wide, and the horns tapered to a one-pixel tip. That was impossible to make look good against a dark background, so I modified that to have an outline.
My workflow for recolouring these things is similar to yours: just straight-up using colour reduction and selection+bucket fill in GIMP. I usually try to go for a five shade ramp, to match the ramps in the LPC palette, but sometimes that doesn't work out. The LPC palette has a few wider ramps, and a ton of shades that can slot in between shades on the five colour ramps. It's really odd in that way.
Sometimes I think I should have a go at simplifying the palette by merging similar colours and adding in some proper reds, but it's such a daunting task that I keep putting it off.
Just a quick update - the Victorian town tiles are coming (had to clean up the animations and fix a few other problems) very soon! And there is another (related) tileset that will accompany them and I think be of interest to anyone wanting to create a Victorian town. ;-)
Unrelatedly, a while ago I was messing around with updating my beach/desert sheet https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-beach-desert , and started re-drawing all the cacti. Still lacking some details in several places (and a few haven't been converted yet), but overall I feel they are much improved :) What do you think? Much else that could be added to this set (I would like to add Joshua and proper acacia trees, as well as some more varied succulent-type plants, like Haworthia, snake plant, etc.)
Sneak preview :)
The town portion is relatively representative, but there are a lot more possibilities and for the buildings. More to come!
holy!! I saw a notification of your post, and had a feeling this would be interesting. But man, it is more than that; This is beautiful! Those buildings are magical.. So pretty! Makes me think about Amsterdam, where I am from, and then especially the canal buildings. Maybe I can do a commission on that in the future if you like!
I attack the gazebo!
Love those cacti et al above, too!
--Medicine StormPages