Do if Microsoft holds the right to make games with trophiy achivements for kills, is that what you are saying?,. If true then I can't put trophy kill achievements in my game unless I pay for a license fee ?I thought the whole patent thing is stupid, that system works only if there are few patents but when there are THOUSANDS to try to dodge or have to pay a licensing fees for, it just makes game development more difficult and much more expensive, myabe that's why game developers work in studios and groups to try to cover all these many licensing costs, production costs, trademark costs to use their label, marketing and advertising costs, media costs,, distribution costs, and so on.
So that's probably how the small game developers are getting slammed to the wall by these big game publishing companies slapping with all these costs if you want to publish the game through their label. Maybe this is why some developers publish their game instead on Steam, maybe Steam is a cheaper alternative than publishing it thorugh a major game publishing ;company. if we use unreal to develop our game with, then we have to publish it through Epic because of the patents of Electronic arts forces people to have to send their unreal games into Epic for the publishing and distribution rights so if you use their patent technology which is the Unreal Engine. These companies sound more like the Ferengi !!
LMAO Dodge all the patents. I loving call Patents "Mines" because that's to me is what they are, Deadly Mines put in all the commercial waters just like how we put mines in the video games as obstacles for the player to steer carefully all around . So the commercial ocean is all rigged up with all of these patents and they are deadly when run into.. Of course there is going to be overlaps of ideas and concepts with the more games that get designed and created...Take a Look at snowflakes. As more of them fall down on the ground, you notice they blend in the same patterns and shapes with each other as more of them fall. and likewise so do our ideas and concepts blend in with ideas and concepts already found in other games. So I don't think you can avoid all the criss=-crossing and overlaps because as the number of people making games gets more bigger, the more criss crossing and blending you see (the big picture)...... So this is why I can't understand why they these companies go out of their way to just lay down more mines.
Why don't they should set up a main server where we can put our games through and they can check "debug' to see if there are any minefields "conflicts" and warnings with their rules then sugggest corrections to avoid running into the mines. Just like how you would debug a batch script. If we only had that kind of technology to debug all the legal problems first before they even start... Then we would avoid the legal minefield.
This is properly why Epic wants people in the game industry to switch to the unreal engine to develop their games with in order to keep themselves all in line with Electronic Arts Patents. Because I found a patent on the unreal shader and the texture effects the shader does on textures.
So Developers who accidentally overlap or criss-crossing into other people's ideas wthout knowing it should not be threatened. We are not 100% perfect in everything and for some of these companies to expect absolute perfection or threaten legal blow ups instead of allowing people some breathing space to make course corrections in their projects to get themselves around the mines they laid out is just ridiculous............ These companies should just tell us how to steer away from the danger
Apparently after checking the patent office in america, ELECTRONIC ARTS Holds most of the Patents. And that company has filed tons of patents recently, filled around 2007-2009 but in 2012-2014 is when they started to come all into force. So its not just copyright law to worry about here but also a truckload of patents as well.
Can;t make story episodes (bummer), Well that's a shame, no save installments, Can't have a mouse wheel dialog system, but when I read through the RIDICULOUS SIXTY LEVELS OF protection they have put got down for it, they seem to say, no graphic mouse shapes in your dialog. fine. for I don't need the mouse interface to navigate through my dialog tree anyway, These guys at Electronic Arts can have their wheel. In the Mass Effect 3 game After the wheel dialog choices is done, when I click again on the model after the cutscene is over and they either have nothing left to say, or they get stuck in a endless loop an go on and on like a broken record. They use a 1 dimensional dialog tree system attached to a mouse wheel interface, I plan on doing dynamic dialog in my game without use of a mouse graphic interface while these guys can just keep on running outta gas with the wheel and having broken record troubles when it runs out of options eventually...
The User Profile Model reCreation, theres a patent also on this as well, this one seems to say that we can't create a 3d modeling interface to allow our players to change the default player mesh to customize their own mesh character while in the game....Even though we can freely customize a mesh in 3d modeling programs outside our games like Blender, and then rig them what a Bummer.
I think the whole entire system is pathetic why? Because its getting more and more complicated the more patents the more restrictions they introduce. The more complicated things become..
Well the game project I am working on now is Called Teseract Prime Outworlds, The Unknown Universe. (original game title I came up with). But my universe is not the mass effect universe, its totally different characters.
But In looking more further into this, yes, There's the copyright protection which I know all about, but when it come to Video Games some of them use a double layer of additional protection known as patents.
So Far, all I can find on patents to do with Mass Effect is just about its wheel dialog system, I don't use a wheel dialog system in my game, instead I plan to use the UDK Built-in Text Announcement System for the game diaglog.
Or maybe find a way to get Unreal to read Dialog from a Dialog file for the scenes. I still think they should (just like they did with rigging the models online) is create a Face Animation Database so we can rig the diaglog text up with the facial expressions. By just loading up our model, typing in the text we want t animate with the model and the server builds it all for you, rather than muck around assembling all the facial animations manually yourself to go with your diaglog.
The only way to sort it out is to ask Bioware concening some of the ideas and concept thing. I do like the some of the concept design inside their Normandy Ship. The unreal engine makes it light up like a christmas tree with the Material Editor effects.
Okay, Then if we want to use an idea or concept from another game, is to ask the company who made the game if we can use their idea or concept or not. then we will know for sure. Even though Bioware already knows that the fans of Mass Effect are already moddling the hell out of their game. They are hacking the game to pieces in order to try to mod it.
Do if Microsoft holds the right to make games with trophiy achivements for kills, is that what you are saying?,. If true then I can't put trophy kill achievements in my game unless I pay for a license fee ?I thought the whole patent thing is stupid, that system works only if there are few patents but when there are THOUSANDS to try to dodge or have to pay a licensing fees for, it just makes game development more difficult and much more expensive, myabe that's why game developers work in studios and groups to try to cover all these many licensing costs, production costs, trademark costs to use their label, marketing and advertising costs, media costs,, distribution costs, and so on.
So that's probably how the small game developers are getting slammed to the wall by these big game publishing companies slapping with all these costs if you want to publish the game through their label. Maybe this is why some developers publish their game instead on Steam, maybe Steam is a cheaper alternative than publishing it thorugh a major game publishing ;company. if we use unreal to develop our game with, then we have to publish it through Epic because of the patents of Electronic arts forces people to have to send their unreal games into Epic for the publishing and distribution rights so if you use their patent technology which is the Unreal Engine. These companies sound more like the Ferengi !!
So is steam a better alternative?
What's the attrition for the Cargo Crate, I do hav a shuttle bay i my game they could be handy to stack into
That's true I used the same public domain graphic picture (2d bitmap version), but how id you turn it into a 3d model?
but I like your model, very nice
Any system that believes in just dishing just cold hard justice before showing mercy is a system that is not in balance.)
LMAO Dodge all the patents. I loving call Patents "Mines" because that's to me is what they are, Deadly Mines put in all the commercial waters just like how we put mines in the video games as obstacles for the player to steer carefully all around . So the commercial ocean is all rigged up with all of these patents and they are deadly when run into.. Of course there is going to be overlaps of ideas and concepts with the more games that get designed and created...Take a Look at snowflakes. As more of them fall down on the ground, you notice they blend in the same patterns and shapes with each other as more of them fall. and likewise so do our ideas and concepts blend in with ideas and concepts already found in other games. So I don't think you can avoid all the criss=-crossing and overlaps because as the number of people making games gets more bigger, the more criss crossing and blending you see (the big picture)...... So this is why I can't understand why they these companies go out of their way to just lay down more mines.
Why don't they should set up a main server where we can put our games through and they can check "debug' to see if there are any minefields "conflicts" and warnings with their rules then sugggest corrections to avoid running into the mines. Just like how you would debug a batch script. If we only had that kind of technology to debug all the legal problems first before they even start... Then we would avoid the legal minefield.
This is properly why Epic wants people in the game industry to switch to the unreal engine to develop their games with in order to keep themselves all in line with Electronic Arts Patents. Because I found a patent on the unreal shader and the texture effects the shader does on textures.
So Developers who accidentally overlap or criss-crossing into other people's ideas wthout knowing it should not be threatened. We are not 100% perfect in everything and for some of these companies to expect absolute perfection or threaten legal blow ups instead of allowing people some breathing space to make course corrections in their projects to get themselves around the mines they laid out is just ridiculous............ These companies should just tell us how to steer away from the danger
Apparently after checking the patent office in america, ELECTRONIC ARTS Holds most of the Patents. And that company has filed tons of patents recently, filled around 2007-2009 but in 2012-2014 is when they started to come all into force. So its not just copyright law to worry about here but also a truckload of patents as well.
Can;t make story episodes (bummer), Well that's a shame, no save installments, Can't have a mouse wheel dialog system, but when I read through the RIDICULOUS SIXTY LEVELS OF protection they have put got down for it, they seem to say, no graphic mouse shapes in your dialog. fine. for I don't need the mouse interface to navigate through my dialog tree anyway, These guys at Electronic Arts can have their wheel. In the Mass Effect 3 game After the wheel dialog choices is done, when I click again on the model after the cutscene is over and they either have nothing left to say, or they get stuck in a endless loop an go on and on like a broken record. They use a 1 dimensional dialog tree system attached to a mouse wheel interface, I plan on doing dynamic dialog in my game without use of a mouse graphic interface while these guys can just keep on running outta gas with the wheel and having broken record troubles when it runs out of options eventually...
The User Profile Model reCreation, theres a patent also on this as well, this one seems to say that we can't create a 3d modeling interface to allow our players to change the default player mesh to customize their own mesh character while in the game....Even though we can freely customize a mesh in 3d modeling programs outside our games like Blender, and then rig them what a Bummer.
I think the whole entire system is pathetic why? Because its getting more and more complicated the more patents the more restrictions they introduce. The more complicated things become..
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Well the game project I am working on now is Called Teseract Prime Outworlds, The Unknown Universe. (original game title I came up with). But my universe is not the mass effect universe, its totally different characters.
But In looking more further into this, yes, There's the copyright protection which I know all about, but when it come to Video Games some of them use a double layer of additional protection known as patents.
So Far, all I can find on patents to do with Mass Effect is just about its wheel dialog system, I don't use a wheel dialog system in my game, instead I plan to use the UDK Built-in Text Announcement System for the game diaglog.
Or maybe find a way to get Unreal to read Dialog from a Dialog file for the scenes. I still think they should (just like they did with rigging the models online) is create a Face Animation Database so we can rig the diaglog text up with the facial expressions. By just loading up our model, typing in the text we want t animate with the model and the server builds it all for you, rather than muck around assembling all the facial animations manually yourself to go with your diaglog.
The only way to sort it out is to ask Bioware concening some of the ideas and concept thing. I do like the some of the concept design inside their Normandy Ship. The unreal engine makes it light up like a christmas tree with the Material Editor effects.
Okay, Then if we want to use an idea or concept from another game, is to ask the company who made the game if we can use their idea or concept or not. then we will know for sure. Even though Bioware already knows that the fans of Mass Effect are already moddling the hell out of their game. They are hacking the game to pieces in order to try to mod it.
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