section31, you're free to believe any old thing you want, even though you're highly misinformed about, well, pretty much everything. Your free to find a place that thinks like you do and so whatever. But you can't decide to violate the rules for how this site is set up, or the law. Well, you can, but you face the repurcussions of that choice. It's not fair to make that choice for other people and impose your will on others. Just stop.
It's great that it both has so many animations and is public domain. Makes me think this one could be adapted quite easily into other figures. Zombies and ninjas would bother be easy, for example. Very cool.
CC-By has provisions for requiring a mention, but an artist licensee is within his rights to require whatever credit line he wants, which in this case is none.
He says though that you can't claim it as your own work, so obviously putting it in public domain (or CC0, the closest thing we have to that) won't work, because that license doesn't require anything. People can be upset if someone falsely cliams credit for it, but legally you can't do anything.
In the United States anyway, only for uses that would be considered endorsements of a product in a serious (non-parody) way.
The name change does nothing to the legal question, so I don't get why that looks like the reason it was released. Unless you argue that adds to the parody.
Since we're talking about it already... I don't even think you'd need to get too complicated with characters. Just some flat, basic designs that weren't that alien would add a lot of flexibility.
For solid colors (mostly, like the aliens) you could have concentrate on just a recognizable rough shape. There could be a humanoid lizard/dinosaur (size would be only difference), cat, mud/muck monster, maybe some variations on the existing ghost, and animated fruits and vegies (banana, cucumber, peanut, eggplant, whatever). Different colors on most of them would also extend them greatly without a whole new shape having to be created.
For just two major colors you'd open up pandas, foxes, racoons and so forth.
If you wanted something larger for a boss character, you might do a bear, crab. A snake or octopus are both classic, and could come in parts that overlap. Something with mix and match wings and heads and bodies would be awesome. Just putting them together the right way could be different mutants or beasts.
There ought at least to be something in there to spark an idea that would not be too hard. Your robots aren't overused yet, but you're starting to see the alien lots of places. You've got some other things that could work but are too much work for some people. I guess that's a good and bad thing.
I would agree it's kind of a moot point now, but I have no idea what MedicineStorm is saying.
"You can relicense that without changing the asset at all." Public domain is public domain. You can give credit like OGA-By or whatnot -- voluntarily -- but you can't force anyone to follow your lead. You can't own it. Doesn't work that way. That's copyfraud, which is illegal.
"So, really someone would only need to deviate from the original asset enough for others to take notice of it despite the more restrictive license." Taking notice of a change doesn't give you or anyone else copyright. Copyright is solely for artistic work. If you haven't done any (or paid to license someone else's), you don't get it even if you claim it. Color change does not rise to the level required. "Sweat of the brow" work is explicitly not covered. Changing a JPG to PNG does not count. Photographing a two dimensional object without additions does not cut it. Artistic changes would (but the original still exists as CC0).
Do we need a jaw dropping smiley? My jaw has dropped, followed by a smile. Wow!
Does this come included in something I'm already pledging? Or paid for? Or... screw it, it's just a donation anyway, paying what may or may not be extra to get the rest. Getting the Komplete Pack. I know I have some or most of that already, but heck, $35 for everything is a steal.
I use Clickteam already and paid full price for the developer version a while ago. Was a couple hundred I think. That's now included in the $15 humble set. But even with just the exporters contributing anything new to me it was still a great deal.
Heck, buy it just for the included games and try out the game making end if you feel like it. You'll still be ahead.
section31, you're free to believe any old thing you want, even though you're highly misinformed about, well, pretty much everything. Your free to find a place that thinks like you do and so whatever. But you can't decide to violate the rules for how this site is set up, or the law. Well, you can, but you face the repurcussions of that choice. It's not fair to make that choice for other people and impose your will on others. Just stop.
It's great that it both has so many animations and is public domain. Makes me think this one could be adapted quite easily into other figures. Zombies and ninjas would bother be easy, for example. Very cool.
CC-By has provisions for requiring a mention, but an artist licensee is within his rights to require whatever credit line he wants, which in this case is none.
He says though that you can't claim it as your own work, so obviously putting it in public domain (or CC0, the closest thing we have to that) won't work, because that license doesn't require anything. People can be upset if someone falsely cliams credit for it, but legally you can't do anything.
Seems to do what it sets out to do.
In the United States anyway, only for uses that would be considered endorsements of a product in a serious (non-parody) way.
The name change does nothing to the legal question, so I don't get why that looks like the reason it was released. Unless you argue that adds to the parody.
Since we're talking about it already... I don't even think you'd need to get too complicated with characters. Just some flat, basic designs that weren't that alien would add a lot of flexibility.
For solid colors (mostly, like the aliens) you could have concentrate on just a recognizable rough shape. There could be a humanoid lizard/dinosaur (size would be only difference), cat, mud/muck monster, maybe some variations on the existing ghost, and animated fruits and vegies (banana, cucumber, peanut, eggplant, whatever). Different colors on most of them would also extend them greatly without a whole new shape having to be created.
For just two major colors you'd open up pandas, foxes, racoons and so forth.
If you wanted something larger for a boss character, you might do a bear, crab. A snake or octopus are both classic, and could come in parts that overlap. Something with mix and match wings and heads and bodies would be awesome. Just putting them together the right way could be different mutants or beasts.
There ought at least to be something in there to spark an idea that would not be too hard. Your robots aren't overused yet, but you're starting to see the alien lots of places. You've got some other things that could work but are too much work for some people. I guess that's a good and bad thing.
Three more days 'til Halloween.
Halloween.
Halloween.
Three more days 'til Halloween.
Silver shamrock!
Huh. I bought the thing and didn't even realize you made it, unless I read it here somewhere, got the idea, and then forgot the source. Not sure now.
Good job and great info, by the way.
I would agree it's kind of a moot point now, but I have no idea what MedicineStorm is saying.
"You can relicense that without changing the asset at all." Public domain is public domain. You can give credit like OGA-By or whatnot -- voluntarily -- but you can't force anyone to follow your lead. You can't own it. Doesn't work that way. That's copyfraud, which is illegal.
"So, really someone would only need to deviate from the original asset enough for others to take notice of it despite the more restrictive license." Taking notice of a change doesn't give you or anyone else copyright. Copyright is solely for artistic work. If you haven't done any (or paid to license someone else's), you don't get it even if you claim it. Color change does not rise to the level required. "Sweat of the brow" work is explicitly not covered. Changing a JPG to PNG does not count. Photographing a two dimensional object without additions does not cut it. Artistic changes would (but the original still exists as CC0).
Do we need a jaw dropping smiley? My jaw has dropped, followed by a smile. Wow!
Does this come included in something I'm already pledging? Or paid for? Or... screw it, it's just a donation anyway, paying what may or may not be extra to get the rest. Getting the Komplete Pack. I know I have some or most of that already, but heck, $35 for everything is a steal.
I know it's cliche, but "me too".
I use Clickteam already and paid full price for the developer version a while ago. Was a couple hundred I think. That's now included in the $15 humble set. But even with just the exporters contributing anything new to me it was still a great deal.
Heck, buy it just for the included games and try out the game making end if you feel like it. You'll still be ahead.
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