Facebook response from Basil (of BROFORCE team), reposted here with permission.
Hi Clint
Thanks so much for this! I did reply to his message which was (in a way) warning me about a few screenshots being on OpenGameArt. I wasn't altogether worried, as anyone could get the same quality, and newer, screenshots from youtube videos or anywhere else.
Great to know you are on top of things and thanks again for getting in touch about it :)
He said they would not have minded, but agreed it seemed unethical. I clarified that we aim to host art that is definitely, enthusiastically intended to be reused in games.
Redshrike I agree with you on that point about ethics and courtesy. I think it's okay for e.g. a beginner making a game to go through Wikipedia for art to use, and that doesn't have to be unethical. That even seems in the spirit of Wikipedia as a learning/knowledge resource.
It's different for us as a community site, where we're offering art guaranteed to have no commercial restrictions.
I sent this message to Free Lives (the BROFORCE developers) on Facebook.
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Someone recently contacted you on FB saying your Wikipedia screenshots were uploaded to OpenGameArt.
I'm a moderator for OpenGameArt -- even if art is CC licensed, it our policy to only offer for download art that the creators INTEND to be reused in other games.
I made a moderator decision that scraping Wikipedia articles for "Free" game art is unethical and not what OpenGameArt is about.
I have removed his submission of BROFORCE material from our site.
If you are ever interested in sharing your art specifically for use in other games, do let us know. But I'm going to assume that Wikipedia is not an acceptable place for our users to plunder art.
Given your stance about "girlish 'people have feelings' nonsense", I trust you won't take it personally when I disable your account access to OpenGameArt.
Thanks for trying to participate, and good luck on your new collection.
chaosesqueteam: I understand how my art might be used when I upload my own art to OpenGameArt. It's ok for people to use my art in games I don't agree with.
Compare to this situation: did BroForce understand their art might be used in competing games when they upload screenshots to Wikipedia?
Part of all of this is us working on upated rules for submitting art. When submitting art that isn't your own, assume NOTHING. Always ask, make sure they want their art on OpenGameArt.
I may ask Bart if the default user can be configured to only allow uploads of their own works. Then, we could have a level of approved users that are able to also submit art created by others. These would be people that know about licenses and our policies on getting permission from artists.
Facebook response from Basil (of BROFORCE team), reposted here with permission.
My original message is above
License cleared, thanks for helping us MobileGameGraphics!
Fantastic theme for Klotski! I really like how these are done.
I had this twitter conversation with one of the BroForce creators.
https://twitter.com/clintbellanger/status/611225375708987392
He said they would not have minded, but agreed it seemed unethical. I clarified that we aim to host art that is definitely, enthusiastically intended to be reused in games.
Redshrike I agree with you on that point about ethics and courtesy. I think it's okay for e.g. a beginner making a game to go through Wikipedia for art to use, and that doesn't have to be unethical. That even seems in the spirit of Wikipedia as a learning/knowledge resource.
It's different for us as a community site, where we're offering art guaranteed to have no commercial restrictions.
Thanks! I've cleared this for download again.
This thread went nowhere useful, and fast.
Locking the thread from new comments.
I sent this message to Free Lives (the BROFORCE developers) on Facebook.
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Response below
Nikita_Sadkov,
Given your stance about "girlish 'people have feelings' nonsense", I trust you won't take it personally when I disable your account access to OpenGameArt.
Thanks for trying to participate, and good luck on your new collection.
Clint
chaosesqueteam: I understand how my art might be used when I upload my own art to OpenGameArt. It's ok for people to use my art in games I don't agree with.
Compare to this situation: did BroForce understand their art might be used in competing games when they upload screenshots to Wikipedia?
Part of all of this is us working on upated rules for submitting art. When submitting art that isn't your own, assume NOTHING. Always ask, make sure they want their art on OpenGameArt.
I may ask Bart if the default user can be configured to only allow uploads of their own works. Then, we could have a level of approved users that are able to also submit art created by others. These would be people that know about licenses and our policies on getting permission from artists.
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