i was just saying about 5 unique ones meaning the basic recognizable shape is only about 5
i zoomed in on the preview image and i woud say the axes kind of repeat every 5 columns
double square blade
double tapered blade
single tapered blade
single tapered blade with rounded top
single triangle blade
repeat
the colors and shafts and the other differences are not really very different enough for my eye to care
the part about multiple post is not a big deal if your posting one new upload a day but 4 all at once could all be together as one big upload of 10000 wepons axes stafs swords spears all together but hey im not admin so prolly ignore this part haha
nah man. dont keep it in mind for _next time_ fix this one here now today. not trying to be a dik but what is stoping you from adding a description and changing the title and using a better preview on this page?
amazing! gloriously rendered! the details are all there... but the details are hidden by darkness. very mysterious. first question. what is it? I guess a lamp judging from the file name. i think a better screenshot would be a good start tbh
title doent tell me anything about it
description doesnt tell me anything about it
preview doesnt tell me anything about it
people search opengameart.org to find art for their games. no one is going to be searching for "first render" or "art that started that one guys animation career"
tell people what it is how many polygons it uses what textures it uses and how they would put it in their game.
btw, when i said the symbols are trademarked i meant the symbols _together_ are definitely trademarked. its right from the united states patent and trademark office. you can disagree with them if you want, but there is no arguing about it. like i also said, the question is if it is ok to use the symbols _by themselves_.
just like it is ok to use a green cross _by itself_ on a medkit
or a red H on a white medkit _by itself_ with no cross
but you can not use a red cross on a white medkit _together_
prolly just beating a dead horse at this tpoint, tho. im just nitpicking details. it looks like op or admins added a disclaimer note, so i guess its all good now
> Fighter19: German law applies for anyone who can affect German citizens. > Fighter19: Thus you're techincally not allowed to make this site available until you have an "legal info" page,
LOL! just let the mods know if you're a german citizen so they can ban you to make the site unavailable to you. problem sovled!
> Fighter19: If you really want to know whether the other symbols are trademarked, ask alawyer
the symbols are trademarked. you dont need to ask a lawyer to know that. the question is if it is ok to use the symbols by themselves or in a game not on the playstation. prolly need a lawyer for that, tho.
> Fighter19: zombietom, if you have no clue about trademarks, please don't talk.
it seems like I know as much as you do about trademarks. maybe you should take yor own advice. I was not saying a _copyright_ license gives you rights to use a _trademark_. I was responding to your statement:
> Fighter19: if you really want to know whether the other symbols are trademarked, ask a lawyer.
we all know trademark != copyright. but oga doesn't allow trademarks on the site either. even if the license for graphical art is not the same as license to use the trademark. still not allowed. because _oga site policy_ says so, not because the law says so.
Friday, April 3, 2020 - 09:08
> Why would the trademark discussion even be relevant if you are an approved developed about to release on the PS4?
right. it wouldnt be relevant. but approved developers arent the only people downloading these.
> Why would Sony or Xbox come over your indie game for supporting their controllers?
i mean yes you probably will never have a problem and never get in trouble. sony wont come after you for using the symbols in your playstation games, and who would use them in a game that isnt going to be on the playstation? but i think what people are saying is you _could_ use them incorrectly and get yourself in trouble.
> Here is a list of games that used these controllers prompts and released on multiple platforms including PS4,Xbox and Switch
yes a lot of games have used these buttons and didnt get in trouble, but thats not really proof that you wont ever. look i cna do that too. here is a list of games that used the red cross on a white background for their medkits
Prison Architect Halo Transformers Half life Doom Final Fantasy 15 Alien vs Predator Alien: Resurrection Aliens: Colonial Marines Alpha Prime ARMA Battlefield BlackSite Borderlands Breed Bulletstorm Call of Duty Call of Juarez Carnivores Catacomb Darkwatch Day of Defeat Delta Force Dishonored Duke Nukem Dying Light blah blah blah, I didn't even get past teh letter D for the most part. there is lots more.
just because a bunch of AAA games did something doesnt mean its allowed. that doesnt mean noone should use these. but they should think about if the way theyre using the symbols is going to piss off sony. like withthelove said, its usually no problem under fair use. but OGA cant tell mpeople its fully safe without a little disclaimer about fair use.
i think its basically settled and agreed its no problem as long as there is a small notice abou t it.
cool
i was just saying about 5 unique ones meaning the basic recognizable shape is only about 5
i zoomed in on the preview image and i woud say the axes kind of repeat every 5 columns
double square blade
double tapered blade
single tapered blade
single tapered blade with rounded top
single triangle blade
repeat
the colors and shafts and the other differences are not really very different enough for my eye to care
like this https://opengameart.org/content/cc0-axe-icons has less than 100 axes but my eye can tell exactly the difference between them right away that is all im saying
the part about multiple post is not a big deal if your posting one new upload a day but 4 all at once could all be together as one big upload of 10000 wepons axes stafs swords spears all together but hey im not admin so prolly ignore this part haha
yea i get how they are all differnt but tbh they are also all pretty much the same
maybe someone else could use more of these but i just dont see much variety across 2500 axes sorry
i guess i feel like the kind of ppl that need art here are already good at procedural generation and can maake their game make the wepons on demand
prolly 5 are different enough to use but 2500 of almost the same wepons is just using up spritesheet space wen they can just use a script
dont want to drive you away cause your art is good and your sharing for free sorry if this comes off as rude
i get the idea and i like r.n.g. but
procedurally generated =/= unique
it woud be more useful to give the parts used to make each one insted of a bunch of pregenerated wepons with a color change on them
prolly dont need 4 different uploads either tbh
just make one "shit-ton of fantasy wepons 32x32" upload
or better yet just one upload of all the _parts_ and let me put them together in my game
cool concept tho
nah man. dont keep it in mind for _next time_ fix this one here now today. not trying to be a dik but what is stoping you from adding a description and changing the title and using a better preview on this page?
amazing! gloriously rendered! the details are all there... but the details are hidden by darkness. very mysterious. first question. what is it? I guess a lamp judging from the file name. i think a better screenshot would be a good start tbh
title doent tell me anything about it
description doesnt tell me anything about it
preview doesnt tell me anything about it
people search opengameart.org to find art for their games. no one is going to be searching for "first render" or "art that started that one guys animation career"
tell people what it is how many polygons it uses what textures it uses and how they would put it in their game.
> These icons are not uniformly sized or uniformly separated.
huh? they are all exactly 34 x 34 pixels what isn't uniform?
:)
btw, when i said the symbols are trademarked i meant the symbols _together_ are definitely trademarked. its right from the united states patent and trademark office. you can disagree with them if you want, but there is no arguing about it. like i also said, the question is if it is ok to use the symbols _by themselves_.
just like it is ok to use a green cross _by itself_ on a medkit
or a red H on a white medkit _by itself_ with no cross
but you can not use a red cross on a white medkit _together_
prolly just beating a dead horse at this tpoint, tho. im just nitpicking details. it looks like op or admins added a disclaimer note, so i guess its all good now
> Fighter19: German law applies for anyone who can affect German citizens.
> Fighter19: Thus you're techincally not allowed to make this site available until you have an "legal info" page,
LOL! just let the mods know if you're a german citizen so they can ban you to make the site unavailable to you. problem sovled!
> Fighter19: If you really want to know whether the other symbols are trademarked, ask alawyer
the symbols are trademarked. you dont need to ask a lawyer to know that. the question is if it is ok to use the symbols by themselves or in a game not on the playstation. prolly need a lawyer for that, tho.
> Fighter19: zombietom, if you have no clue about trademarks, please don't talk.
it seems like I know as much as you do about trademarks. maybe you should take yor own advice. I was not saying a _copyright_ license gives you rights to use a _trademark_. I was responding to your statement:
> Fighter19: if you really want to know whether the other symbols are trademarked, ask a lawyer.
there is no question they _are_ trademarked. and since oga is a us based site where german laws arent enforced, here are the US based trademarks:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79081621&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79252718&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79975238&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79089053&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79071955&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79081621&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=79975238&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch.
we all know trademark != copyright. but oga doesn't allow trademarks on the site either. even if the license for graphical art is not the same as license to use the trademark. still not allowed. because _oga site policy_ says so, not because the law says so.
> Why would the trademark discussion even be relevant if you are an approved developed about to release on the PS4?
right. it wouldnt be relevant. but approved developers arent the only people downloading these.
> Why would Sony or Xbox come over your indie game for supporting their controllers?
i mean yes you probably will never have a problem and never get in trouble. sony wont come after you for using the symbols in your playstation games, and who would use them in a game that isnt going to be on the playstation? but i think what people are saying is you _could_ use them incorrectly and get yourself in trouble.
> Here is a list of games that used these controllers prompts and released on multiple platforms including PS4,Xbox and Switch
yes a lot of games have used these buttons and didnt get in trouble, but thats not really proof that you wont ever. look i cna do that too. here is a list of games that used the red cross on a white background for their medkits
Prison Architect
Halo
Transformers
Half life
Doom
Final Fantasy 15
Alien vs Predator
Alien: Resurrection
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Alpha Prime
ARMA
Battlefield
BlackSite
Borderlands
Breed
Bulletstorm
Call of Duty
Call of Juarez
Carnivores
Catacomb
Darkwatch
Day of Defeat
Delta Force
Dishonored
Duke Nukem
Dying Light
blah blah blah, I didn't even get past teh letter D for the most part. there is lots more.
but all these games had to change their graphics or get sued. https://kotaku.com/video-games-arent-allowed-to-use-the-red-cross-symbol-1791265328
just because a bunch of AAA games did something doesnt mean its allowed. that doesnt mean noone should use these. but they should think about if the way theyre using the symbols is going to piss off sony. like withthelove said, its usually no problem under fair use. but OGA cant tell mpeople its fully safe without a little disclaimer about fair use.
i think its basically settled and agreed its no problem as long as there is a small notice abou t it.
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