thats good to know, and if you can use the preview file as it is without the need to download it then thats ok in my mind too, i dont have a problem with that, however, i do think uploading a preview and submitting a file for downloading are two different things and should be treated as such, they are seperated when making a submission, upload file for preview, and then upload the files you have for download, why is that if its got to be the same? why have a preview upload? and after reading the Submission guidelines both have to be "useable", although i mentioned logo use, im not that bothered if they are used or not, i was just hyperthetically speaking, by doing so have i made that preview unusable so im breach of the submission rules?
I dont know the answer to the license really on previews, only that a preview is a preview and should treated as such, and its the files that should be the used with the license advertised, but if it works for some to use just the preview image then i suppose the license advertised is what it is.
the files made available for download would be used under the license shown. if the image is not in the files then i would say it can't/shouldn't be used for whatever reason as the author has not made it available.
in some cases the author may feel it needs something in the preview to make there work stand out or show a mock up, if its there own work i don't see a problem with it, maybe they could/should say whats not available from the preview before others download, if its not there work then that asks the question whether they have the permission to use it or not.(more uncertainty, and work for admins).
I have my "CG" logo on my previews, but i wouldn't say i would have that public domain, its my identity, i cant think why anyone would want to use that, but if we are thinking we can take the preview images under the license shown and edit them as we feel fit even though the author has not made that particular file available via the download, then its something i need to think about. if someone did use it on work that was offensive i wouldn't have a leg to stand on if i ask them to remove it. im not the only one who does that here.
* Batteries not included
* Not a flying toy
What about artists that advertise there services on the forum pages with preview images as attachments? theres no license on them at all and i have seen many downloads of them, if they don't metion that they are not to be used, then are we to assume they are public domain? (sorry maybe another discussion but think it needs mentioning)
great job!, these are awesome!, love the skeleton, i kinda got thinking that it was once a real man who has been waiting for someone to high five him, but got left hanging for quite sometime, :) someone give him a high five! Brilliant work.:)
I have looked at the project and it sounds great, even as an idea, an open world rpg around super heroes created by original characters, however
"This projects goal is to generate buzz for an idea that will eventually lead to a pitch to the very people who would sue me?"
In my opinion.
The time it takes to create and develop something like this would be very time consuming, and if you are to pitch it then it pretty much would have to be spot on, I'm not sure anyone would be willing to commit to a project like this when the likelyness is you won't get the license from Marvel to get the go ahead anyway, even if your game is really good and marvel like it, they still probly won't grant you a license to use it, and the reason being is because someone else would already have a license to use it, which would not allow another developer to create a game that would potentially put their game project at risk should there be a financial commitment to it.(and there will be a financial commitment to it) thus could be a lawsuit from either marvel themselves or the license holder, although it's more likely a "cease and decist" notice should you continue without a license, even so, all that hard work and effort put in for it not to be allowed would be devasting.(personal experiance)
if you created your game based on original characters then you might get a better response from artists, fan based stuff is great, but it comes with risks, if you do continue I wish you well, and the advise I would give you is be cautious.
you could just use one tree sprite, create the size area sprite you want for the player not to be able to move, and keep pasting it to create a dense area of jungle. any areas the player can move then you could just 'loosen' the area of density to form a path.:)
@megupets thanks :)
thanks medicinestorm for that post, i think that clears it up, well it does for me anyway.
"prefer that the preview images not to be freely licensed, unless the author explicilty says they are"
i agree with that this, but im not going to make a song and dance about if someone uses the preview asset instead of the download.:)
"the license is per submission,not per file"
thats good to know, and if you can use the preview file as it is without the need to download it then thats ok in my mind too, i dont have a problem with that, however, i do think uploading a preview and submitting a file for downloading are two different things and should be treated as such, they are seperated when making a submission, upload file for preview, and then upload the files you have for download, why is that if its got to be the same? why have a preview upload? and after reading the Submission guidelines both have to be "useable", although i mentioned logo use, im not that bothered if they are used or not, i was just hyperthetically speaking, by doing so have i made that preview unusable so im breach of the submission rules?
I dont know the answer to the license really on previews, only that a preview is a preview and should treated as such, and its the files that should be the used with the license advertised, but if it works for some to use just the preview image then i suppose the license advertised is what it is.
:)
My thoughts:
the files made available for download would be used under the license shown. if the image is not in the files then i would say it can't/shouldn't be used for whatever reason as the author has not made it available.
in some cases the author may feel it needs something in the preview to make there work stand out or show a mock up, if its there own work i don't see a problem with it, maybe they could/should say whats not available from the preview before others download, if its not there work then that asks the question whether they have the permission to use it or not.(more uncertainty, and work for admins).
I have my "CG" logo on my previews, but i wouldn't say i would have that public domain, its my identity, i cant think why anyone would want to use that, but if we are thinking we can take the preview images under the license shown and edit them as we feel fit even though the author has not made that particular file available via the download, then its something i need to think about. if someone did use it on work that was offensive i wouldn't have a leg to stand on if i ask them to remove it. im not the only one who does that here.
* Batteries not included
* Not a flying toy
What about artists that advertise there services on the forum pages with preview images as attachments? theres no license on them at all and i have seen many downloads of them, if they don't metion that they are not to be used, then are we to assume they are public domain? (sorry maybe another discussion but think it needs mentioning)
:)
This is so good! Congrats on winning the art challenge, well deserved.:)
thanks!:)
great job!, these are awesome!, love the skeleton, i kinda got thinking that it was once a real man who has been waiting for someone to high five him, but got left hanging for quite sometime, :) someone give him a high five! Brilliant work.:)
I have looked at the project and it sounds great, even as an idea, an open world rpg around super heroes created by original characters, however
"This projects goal is to generate buzz for an idea that will eventually lead to a pitch to the very people who would sue me?"
In my opinion.
The time it takes to create and develop something like this would be very time consuming, and if you are to pitch it then it pretty much would have to be spot on, I'm not sure anyone would be willing to commit to a project like this when the likelyness is you won't get the license from Marvel to get the go ahead anyway, even if your game is really good and marvel like it, they still probly won't grant you a license to use it, and the reason being is because someone else would already have a license to use it, which would not allow another developer to create a game that would potentially put their game project at risk should there be a financial commitment to it.(and there will be a financial commitment to it) thus could be a lawsuit from either marvel themselves or the license holder, although it's more likely a "cease and decist" notice should you continue without a license, even so, all that hard work and effort put in for it not to be allowed would be devasting.(personal experiance)
if you created your game based on original characters then you might get a better response from artists, fan based stuff is great, but it comes with risks, if you do continue I wish you well, and the advise I would give you is be cautious.
:)
There's also this one from LPC, might help.:)
http://gaurav.munjal.us/Universal-LPC-Spritesheet-Character-Generator/
you could just use one tree sprite, create the size area sprite you want for the player not to be able to move, and keep pasting it to create a dense area of jungle. any areas the player can move then you could just 'loosen' the area of density to form a path.:)
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