@AnthoneyMyers that's cool, have a gander around itch, the jam isn't published yet so you won't find it there, but I will post the link here when it's done. Make sure when you create your game in the engine you use tha it can be uploaded to itch via the jam for download/play, else it can't be rated.:) hope you join us, look forward to seeing what you do!
@RedVoxel. I like Surts idea too, but ive been giving it some thought. To create assets exclusively for the jam i feel at the moment that it would limit or restrict other assets usage that are available on OGA. I would like the whole site and everyones contributions over the years to be considered by developers when creating their game, and not a selected 'Group' of assets. However that said, the 'Art Challenge' could be the answer to that 'Part'. As they are considered in the jam and have voting criteria for them, maybe one month the art challenge theme could be 'Game Jam' ;) Again i dont feel having another art contest would help, i personally think we should get behind the art challenge and build from there. just my thoughts. :)
@AnthonyMyers generally game jams are about creating games from scratch, so pre-made game engines is not something that is usually exceptable. There are easier game engines around which are more easier than others, such as scratch or even RPG maker I think. You can use any game engine you want. I see your point about signing up to another website and not having it 'in house', but it's has to be done this way. having it in house means only the OGA community will see it (maybe), and won't attract others to OGA where potentially more developers/artists could use or contribute to OGA itself. So having it homed on one the biggest game jam platforms is essential for this reason. OGA isn't really set up to host games, nor was it designed too, to start having games uploaded would go against what OGA is about, game assets. I am not an administrator, so have no power with page set ups, maybe an admin could do it, but as I mentioned before, Bart does not want the OGA website to be a host for any games, only game assets. Plus the game jam has really no official affiliation with OGA.
What about Twitter? I know that OGA has one, but hasn't been used for years, I did ask Bart ages ago about it but got no response. What about having a 'Static' top post for the forum thread, one that doesn't fall down the order once a new post has been posted, that way all will see it when there's a new art challenge? I agree with @capbros, the latest blog post is to low for it to be seen. Or the option to be notified of a new art challenge, I know you can be notified now, (by email) but that only seems to happen if you have actually posted on the thread itself. Mind you, with all the policy changes taken effect now I suspect all that would be an administrative nightmare now. :)
@capbros, you have given me something to think about now with regards to creating and releasing assets during the jam and thinking it's unfair. Hmmmmm.
i have got some things to mull over aswell, I think the voting criteria could have a role to play in this and how assets are used. It's quite a balancing act. I'm going to leave the jam set up as it is for now, which I will publish in the next 2 weeks, and keep listening to everyone's ideas here, so please keep the ideas coming. I will read them.
The art challenge is a good foundation to build upon and it's encouraging to see new participants recently. I would love tO see more, and it raises a couple of questions.
those that don't participate? Can I ask what is your reasons that you don't participate in the art challenge or game jam?
Try the "LPC" in the search, there are lots of characters and tile sets in orthogonal view. Or just search orthogonal, I'm sure there will lots to choose from there too.:)
@VinnNo.0 yeah, you pretty much said what I kind of set the jam up for, to use what's here, and add what may be found needing, and at the same time the art challenges provide the theme type assets that can be used for for the jam if wanted. I think for now, we will keep it as it is, and if something comes up or is wanted by the community here to add or calibrate within the jam we can look into and discuss for the next jam.
id just like to say that if the jam I set up is not what the community here want, then of coarse you are free to create your own jam with something more tailored. (I don't mean that in a negative way) I do try and consider all of what's been said on the threads and I am always willing to experiment with ideas. :)
I couldn't understand it very much either, but I'm guessing creators on there create asset sets and then they are voted on by the community there to declare a winner, and then they go and make games using those sets. It's kind of similar to the art challenges, just there not part of the jam, just and optional addition to the jam. I'm just trying to think of a way to include asset creation to the jam, for those that might not want, or even make games but can still contribute to OGA and take part. But then they could do that by doing the art challenges can't they? I'm still open to suggestions.:)
That's a good idea @surt, my feeling on this is that I just don't think there is enough participation on the "art challenges" themselves at the moment, which are currently an option in the jam, to think that it is worth adding something like that to it. However, teams can team up, artist and dev, and create art themselves for their game.(long as they are made available on OGA for download before the jam ends) to be considered as part of the 6 assets rule. Or even just create assets for the jam, based on the previous themes if they like, or maybe I could add it in with separate voting within the jam. Il have to think about it, I could do it, how would you suggest a voting criteria for just assets? :)
@AnthoneyMyers that's cool, have a gander around itch, the jam isn't published yet so you won't find it there, but I will post the link here when it's done. Make sure when you create your game in the engine you use tha it can be uploaded to itch via the jam for download/play, else it can't be rated.:) hope you join us, look forward to seeing what you do!
@RedVoxel. I like Surts idea too, but ive been giving it some thought. To create assets exclusively for the jam i feel at the moment that it would limit or restrict other assets usage that are available on OGA. I would like the whole site and everyones contributions over the years to be considered by developers when creating their game, and not a selected 'Group' of assets. However that said, the 'Art Challenge' could be the answer to that 'Part'. As they are considered in the jam and have voting criteria for them, maybe one month the art challenge theme could be 'Game Jam' ;) Again i dont feel having another art contest would help, i personally think we should get behind the art challenge and build from there. just my thoughts. :)
@AnthonyMyers generally game jams are about creating games from scratch, so pre-made game engines is not something that is usually exceptable. There are easier game engines around which are more easier than others, such as scratch or even RPG maker I think. You can use any game engine you want. I see your point about signing up to another website and not having it 'in house', but it's has to be done this way. having it in house means only the OGA community will see it (maybe), and won't attract others to OGA where potentially more developers/artists could use or contribute to OGA itself. So having it homed on one the biggest game jam platforms is essential for this reason. OGA isn't really set up to host games, nor was it designed too, to start having games uploaded would go against what OGA is about, game assets. I am not an administrator, so have no power with page set ups, maybe an admin could do it, but as I mentioned before, Bart does not want the OGA website to be a host for any games, only game assets. Plus the game jam has really no official affiliation with OGA.
What about Twitter? I know that OGA has one, but hasn't been used for years, I did ask Bart ages ago about it but got no response. What about having a 'Static' top post for the forum thread, one that doesn't fall down the order once a new post has been posted, that way all will see it when there's a new art challenge? I agree with @capbros, the latest blog post is to low for it to be seen. Or the option to be notified of a new art challenge, I know you can be notified now, (by email) but that only seems to happen if you have actually posted on the thread itself. Mind you, with all the policy changes taken effect now I suspect all that would be an administrative nightmare now. :)
@capbros, you have given me something to think about now with regards to creating and releasing assets during the jam and thinking it's unfair. Hmmmmm.
i have got some things to mull over aswell, I think the voting criteria could have a role to play in this and how assets are used. It's quite a balancing act. I'm going to leave the jam set up as it is for now, which I will publish in the next 2 weeks, and keep listening to everyone's ideas here, so please keep the ideas coming. I will read them.
The art challenge is a good foundation to build upon and it's encouraging to see new participants recently. I would love tO see more, and it raises a couple of questions.
those that don't participate? Can I ask what is your reasons that you don't participate in the art challenge or game jam?
Try the "LPC" in the search, there are lots of characters and tile sets in orthogonal view. Or just search orthogonal, I'm sure there will lots to choose from there too.:)
@VinnNo.0 yeah, you pretty much said what I kind of set the jam up for, to use what's here, and add what may be found needing, and at the same time the art challenges provide the theme type assets that can be used for for the jam if wanted. I think for now, we will keep it as it is, and if something comes up or is wanted by the community here to add or calibrate within the jam we can look into and discuss for the next jam.
id just like to say that if the jam I set up is not what the community here want, then of coarse you are free to create your own jam with something more tailored. (I don't mean that in a negative way) I do try and consider all of what's been said on the threads and I am always willing to experiment with ideas. :)
I couldn't understand it very much either, but I'm guessing creators on there create asset sets and then they are voted on by the community there to declare a winner, and then they go and make games using those sets. It's kind of similar to the art challenges, just there not part of the jam, just and optional addition to the jam. I'm just trying to think of a way to include asset creation to the jam, for those that might not want, or even make games but can still contribute to OGA and take part. But then they could do that by doing the art challenges can't they? I'm still open to suggestions.:)
Any one have any suggestions about Surt's idea?
That's a good idea @surt, my feeling on this is that I just don't think there is enough participation on the "art challenges" themselves at the moment, which are currently an option in the jam, to think that it is worth adding something like that to it. However, teams can team up, artist and dev, and create art themselves for their game.(long as they are made available on OGA for download before the jam ends) to be considered as part of the 6 assets rule. Or even just create assets for the jam, based on the previous themes if they like, or maybe I could add it in with separate voting within the jam. Il have to think about it, I could do it, how would you suggest a voting criteria for just assets? :)
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