Need art designer/animator for rpg game.
Hello my name is Mikael, but mostly called Mango.
*What i need/the game:
I am a pretty terrible art designer and even worse animator, so to be able to keep my game going i need a good 2d artist that i will work close with and when the game releases you will get 25% of all the income that the game brings in (if any).
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I am currently working on a (mmo)RPG game, it's still in the very early thinking process.
The game will be close to "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past" but with more aspects of a mmorpg. (Levels/Experience, Skills/Skilltree's)
I am also thinking to have a housing system like Archeage but with a more player friendly way.
*About me:
My name is Mikael im 25 years, i live in Sweden.
Currently i am unemployed and i am going back to school soon.
I have been creating games since i was about 8, nothing too fancy and nothing ever got finished as i am still trying to learn as much as possible.
This project is one i have been thinking of making ever since i started programming, but have not before had the programing knowledge to create.
Now when i know i can make such a game i am willing to give all my free time to create it.
*Contact:
If you feel like you want to help me with this project and become a part of it please contact me via mail or skype. (I'm not very active on this forum)
Contact me if you got any questions or want more specifics about the game.
Email: cronich@hotmail.com
Skype: cnh.redstar
A few things. Make of them what you will.
I got to the MMORPG bit and laughed, facepalmed, then lost interest. Resource Requests is not the place to dump half-baked schemes. It is for games that are already up and working, ideally nearly, or even completely, finished, that just need better art.
I know it sucks, but nobody is going to care about getting an arbritrary amount of profit from a game that will never get made.
Again, another who seems to have not read the Resource Requests sticky.
Stay a while and listen.
"I have been creating games since i was about 8, nothing too fancy and nothing ever got finished as i am still trying to learn as much as possible."
That's fine for a beginning dev. Everyone starts somewhere and it's good that you do have a history of interest.
Unless you want to make "a (mmo)RPG game." RPGs, ESPECIALLY MMOrpgs, are huge projects which require a lot of work both on the design/code front and on the asset front, not to mention things like mapping and writing. It is flat-out not the kind of project you want to try for your first completed game. It simply will not happen, and if you did get an inexperienced artist on board (and I say inexperienced because game artists with experience have seen this many times before), their work will end up repurposed for another project or entirely wasted.
It's great that you want to get into game dev, but save yourself a huge headache and think a bit smaller for your early projects.
I would like to say that this is'nt going to be the new "WoW".
Just a simple game at start, that will grow over time. (Just like runescape did/are doing)
Arcanorum*
"Again, another who seems to have not read the Resource Requests sticky."
Yes i did not read the entire sticky, as this section seemed the most fitting for my needs.
Also i know things like this takes alot of time and work.
I have been a webbdesigner for many years and i know how to work hard and how to finish what i am working with.
I have just not yet done that in game development because i rather learn from the projects then finishing a half decent game.
I should have stated my request better, i was in a rush and i wanted to get the topic up.
Redshrike*
"and if you did get an inexperienced artist on board (and I say inexperienced because game artists with experience have seen this many times before), their work will end up repurposed for another project or entirely wasted."
I as a webbdesigner know how to work with artists and i have and i would never use anything from one project to another without the artists concent.
*Most of the game is finished, in small bits in different projects i have done before.
I will update my first post asap with additional information that i should have included from the start.
"Just a simple game at start, that will grow over time. (Just like runescape did/are doing)"
Runescape was made by a team who already had experience in professionally developing online games (anyone else remember the Gamesdomain Castle?) and of course they've had a decade or so to build on it. You're not even at the point they were when they started. Think smaller for now.
When I say their work would end up repurposed, I mean by the artist who is left with a lot of work they've done for a project that hasn't worked out. It's almost inevitable, I've seen it happen, I've had it happen to me as well.
I can point you towards basically one exception, which I happen to have been involved with. It's a 2D MMOrpg called Phobos which recently entered closed beta testing. It started out as a small team with very little game-making experience, including a lot of artists who were all accostomed to working in a particular style but had essentially no experience working on actual games (a consequence of a particularly vibrant fan-art community for another MMO which ended up losing interest in that MMO as it lost interest in that side of the fanbase). From those beginnings, and with a relatively large number of artists with drawing experience but no game-making experience (ie, young and naive), some enthusiastic story-writers and a programmer with some experience but no real game-making credits, we have ended up with a very beautiful and playable product (behind closed doors still, but yeah). But do you know how long it took? We started almost 9 years ago. And it's still not released. The whole thing had to be reprogrammed, we've cycled pretty much all of our graphics in and out again, and over that time I've gone from being a middle schooler to a grad student. In the mean time I watched a number of other similar projects be born, show promise, wither and die. I've also seen a couple of other small MMOs make it to a released and money-making product, though both are helmed with experienced programmers and both initially tapped into that same, oddly-productive fanbase for free work (including me :) ). But neither of them has really hit it big despite the enormous amount of time and effort put in by their dedicated teams. Both of them have had to be remade from scratch a couple of times and sloughed off almost their entire playerbase a couple of times in the process.
So I should nuance what I said a bit: it's not exactly impossible, because it's been done, kind of. But gosh darn it it's not the way to start out if you want to do things properly. It's a big pain to have to redo and reredo all of your work, and that's only if you are one of the rare and happy few who survive long enough to have to correct the foundational errors that happened early on. And without those unique circumstances of a weird community of isolated pixel artists who honed their skills for kicks with no thought that they might be valuable to real projects, and who were easily excited for any project that would be interested in their work, it's going to be even harder going. Start with something less ambitious. One big advantage you have over those projects is the big archive of freely-available stuff right here on OGA. None of that existed back when we got started. It means you can work on building experience on your side of things without having to worry about the drama of maintaining a team and without having to depend on an artist. Once you have one or two projects like that done people are more likely to want to work with you on something bigger, because you'll be more likely to succeed, and to succeed by a more direct path.