Implications of Adobe's Firefly on OGA's AI Artwork Policies
Throughout our discussions thus far, we've found ourselves within a grey area regarding the licensing and copyright status of works generated by AI models trained on public data that possess ambiguous or mixed licenses. Consequently, such works are no longer permissible on the OGA platform due to these unresolved legal uncertainties.
However, a recent development in this arena with Adobe's release of their generative AI model, Firefly, introduces a new dimension to this conversation. Adobe asserts that Firefly's training data set exclusively consists of public domain images and those with open licenses, which theoretically shouldn't be dragged down by licensing issues usually associated with generative AI outputs.
Given these considerations, it could be argued that creations assisted by Firefly should not be encumbered by licensing issues typically associated with AI-generated works, and, therefore, should qualify for submission on OGA. The implications of this development on OGA's policies warrant a thorough discussion, and I welcome your thoughts and insights on this matter.
This post was written by Chad P.T.
This was already addressed from the beginning: https://opengameart.org/content/artificial-intelligence-assisted-artwork
--Medicine StormThank you so much for the fast response!
I think it depends on what the "those with open licenses" are - I mean, if it was trained on a million CC BY images, and you need to abide by those licences, that's up to a million attributions to list...
^^Agreed. Thus the "demonstrably". Links to Adobe Firefly dataset information?
--Medicine Stormi did some perusing, and there is no transparency of the dataset that i can see. "adobe says" is the only think i can see.
from the FAQ
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The current Firefly generative AI model is trained on a dataset of Adobe Stock, along with openly licensed work and public domain content where copyright has expired.
As Firefly evolves, Adobe is exploring ways for creators to be able to train the machine learning model with their own assets so they can generate content that matches their unique style, branding, and design language without the influence of other creators’ content. Adobe will continue to listen to and work with the creative community to address future developments to the Firefly training models.
With the Content Authenticity Initiative (CAI), Adobe is setting the industry standard for responsible generative AI. With more than 900 members today, the CAI is leading the conversation around digital content attribution. The CAI offers free, publicly available open source tools and is working on a widely adopted technical standard in collaboration with leading technology organizations through the nonprofit Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity (C2PA).
Firefly will automatically attach a tag in the embedded Content Credentials to make AI-generated art and content easily distinguishable from work created without generative AI.
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however i cant find any "demonstration" of there claims. i mean they obviously own the rights to adobe stock images, but i guess we are just supposed to trust them that the rest of the dataset is public domain.
but since my first generation with it churned out this thing, it cant be all bad:
I would say, in this case, "Adobe says" is actually sufficient. They are publicly asserting (which makes them legally liable) that all assets used to train Firefly are correctly licensed/attributed already or they posess all relevant rights.
--Medicine StormSo we will be allowing art created by Firefly on OGA?
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I'm open to hearing arguments to the contrary, but barring that, yeah. :)EDIT: missed the fact that Firefly output is (currently) non-commercial only. Until that changes, we can't host Firefly-generated assets.
--Medicine Stormunder current terms i believe the content made using firefly is allowed for non-commercial uses, when i fiddled with it it applied a no commercial use watermark to my images (see the attatchment above)
i do think it is really cool that companies are paying attention to the debate and trying to do this in a way that doesn't violate anyone's rights.
i think in the future we will see more open datasets
Oh, dang. I totally missed that. Yeah, unless Firefly has a non-non-commercial option, that won't do.
--Medicine StormAh yeah furrently Firefly is in beta so they have a non-commercial use clause, it will be gone when its in full release. Adobe is so confident that they asserted that they will cover any legal cost incurred from the use of Firefly: https://futurism.com/the-byte/adobe-legal-bills-ai