"...P.S. Don't wait days. message me right away ... if you need account re-approval. Until this part is improved, there is no way for me to know your account has been unapproved. You'll just wait forever if you don't let me know. It won't bother me. :)" -Me
@Mold: I haven't heard anything about restricting art submittd on the artists behalf. Everyone's allowed to do that still. It is a known bug, but it seems to be considered lower priority and high effort to fix. I'd advise making the author clearly known in the attribution instructions and, when possible, add the author as a collaborator.
Surt is right. No Derivatives (and non commercial) is not compatible with any license on OGA. The "agreement" in the package doesn't match the licenses specified.
Would you be willing to remove the terms that conflict with CC BY, CC By-SA, and GPL?
True; the original license is irrevokable. I stated as such. This isn't about license revocation.
True; The author has not yet asked for it to be removed. That is why it has not been removed, or even marked as having a licensing issue.
True. Blessings are not mandatory, but it looks like the author has different plans for his work than the license this is currently under. Like I said, anyone can use this under the old license. It is irrevokable. I am not revoking it, Harold cannot revoke it.
Yes, everyone is encouraged to respect the wishes of the artist, but this non-mandatory encouragement is directed at people using the art, not submitters. Submitters ARE required to follow the rule saying artists wishes must be respected. No one is even being accused of malice or disregard for the artist's wishes, only that we should do everything we can to show respect to the artists to promote a good relationship and reputation.
You'll notice no demands were being made, only hopeful requests for a clear OK from the author. The reason I included links to the FAQ was not to say "these are the rules being broken!" it was to show we would rather not remove submissions and that licenses cannot be revoked even if it is decided to remove them from this site out of respect for the author.
There seems to be some impression I am trying to delete this submission despite saying the opposite. I do not want to delete this submission. If, however, the artist sees it and is pissed no one bothered to ask him (even if the request is legally unenforceable and unreasonable), it will be deleted out of respect for the author.
This submission is indeed old, but the age of a submission has no bearing on propriety. If it is discovered something should not have been submitted, it doesn't matter how long it was here, it should not be here. I am hoping that is NOT THE CASE here. The only reason this issue is being revisited at all is because I have had some recent contact with with the author expressing surprise and concern. I was hoping it was simiply due to a language barrier and was hoping there was some action or request remaxim could make to clarify the situation before the author made a takedown request.
Unless the images were taken from very specific locations on the internet, like from OGA where the content is specifically licensed to be reused, reusing those images without permission is violating a copyright of some kind. Even when you change the image, or "make it your own" it is likely infringing on a copyright, even if the copyright is implicit. Giving the author credit does not protect you if they never gave permission for it's use in the first place.
Always make sure you know the license of an image (or have explicit permission from the image owner) and what you need to do to comply with that license.
Images here on OGA always indicate what licenses the images may be used under. Scraping Google image search is a great way to get lawyers angry at you.
If you have any questions about licensing or even other hypothetical scenarios, I'd love to help if I can. :)
The licensing issue remains unresolved. Although the internet archive shows a different license was used at one point, and that license is irrevokable, we still want permission from Harold Azmed to host it here under the "old" license. Anybody can use this under the old license, but OGA generally tries to adhere to an artists wishes regardless of being able to legally defy them. Harold Azmed has his songs listed as CC-NC. I would rather not remove these submissions, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if we had a clear blessing from the artist that he is ok with OGA hosting his work under an old license that don't match his current apparent preferences.
Regarding OGA's stance on licensing changes and artist's wishes vs license revokation: http://opengameart.org/content/faq#q-other "...If the attribution or license are incorrect, we would prefer to correct them rather than take the content down. However, we will remove all art at the author's request regardless of license, provided we can reasonably verify that you're the real author..."
http://opengameart.org/content/faq#q-changelicense "...We encourage you to respect the wishes of the artist if they decide to change the license on their work, however you are under absolutely no obligation to do so, because the license you obtained it under is irrevocable..."
@Mold: I haven't heard anything about restricting art submittd on the artists behalf. Everyone's allowed to do that still. It is a known bug, but it seems to be considered lower priority and high effort to fix. I'd advise making the author clearly known in the attribution instructions and, when possible, add the author as a collaborator.
Is the lossless Flacs offer still on the table?
Surt is right. No Derivatives (and non commercial) is not compatible with any license on OGA. The "agreement" in the package doesn't match the licenses specified.
Would you be willing to remove the terms that conflict with CC BY, CC By-SA, and GPL?
Thank you for revising the non-commercial requirement. :)
Looks like the liberated pixel cup set. http://opengameart.org/content/2d-rpg-lpc-compatible-tilessprites
True; the original license is irrevokable. I stated as such. This isn't about license revocation.
True; The author has not yet asked for it to be removed. That is why it has not been removed, or even marked as having a licensing issue.
True. Blessings are not mandatory, but it looks like the author has different plans for his work than the license this is currently under. Like I said, anyone can use this under the old license. It is irrevokable. I am not revoking it, Harold cannot revoke it.
Yes, everyone is encouraged to respect the wishes of the artist, but this non-mandatory encouragement is directed at people using the art, not submitters. Submitters ARE required to follow the rule saying artists wishes must be respected. No one is even being accused of malice or disregard for the artist's wishes, only that we should do everything we can to show respect to the artists to promote a good relationship and reputation.
You'll notice no demands were being made, only hopeful requests for a clear OK from the author. The reason I included links to the FAQ was not to say "these are the rules being broken!" it was to show we would rather not remove submissions and that licenses cannot be revoked even if it is decided to remove them from this site out of respect for the author.
There seems to be some impression I am trying to delete this submission despite saying the opposite. I do not want to delete this submission. If, however, the artist sees it and is pissed no one bothered to ask him (even if the request is legally unenforceable and unreasonable), it will be deleted out of respect for the author.
This submission is indeed old, but the age of a submission has no bearing on propriety. If it is discovered something should not have been submitted, it doesn't matter how long it was here, it should not be here. I am hoping that is NOT THE CASE here. The only reason this issue is being revisited at all is because I have had some recent contact with with the author expressing surprise and concern. I was hoping it was simiply due to a language barrier and was hoping there was some action or request remaxim could make to clarify the situation before the author made a takedown request.
It's cool, Zuxal. No action has been taken yet.
TL;DR: Yes.
Unless the images were taken from very specific locations on the internet, like from OGA where the content is specifically licensed to be reused, reusing those images without permission is violating a copyright of some kind. Even when you change the image, or "make it your own" it is likely infringing on a copyright, even if the copyright is implicit. Giving the author credit does not protect you if they never gave permission for it's use in the first place.
Always make sure you know the license of an image (or have explicit permission from the image owner) and what you need to do to comply with that license.
Images here on OGA always indicate what licenses the images may be used under. Scraping Google image search is a great way to get lawyers angry at you.
If you have any questions about licensing or even other hypothetical scenarios, I'd love to help if I can. :)
The licensing issue remains unresolved. Although the internet archive shows a different license was used at one point, and that license is irrevokable, we still want permission from Harold Azmed to host it here under the "old" license. Anybody can use this under the old license, but OGA generally tries to adhere to an artists wishes regardless of being able to legally defy them. Harold Azmed has his songs listed as CC-NC. I would rather not remove these submissions, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if we had a clear blessing from the artist that he is ok with OGA hosting his work under an old license that don't match his current apparent preferences.
This applies to the other submissions from this artist as well: http://opengameart.org/content/palm-of-my-hand-intro, http://opengameart.org/content/palm-of-my-hand-flash-back, http://opengameart.org/content/churches-in-antioquia-intro
Regarding OGA's stance on licensing changes and artist's wishes vs license revokation:
http://opengameart.org/content/faq#q-other
"...If the attribution or license are incorrect, we would prefer to correct them rather than take the content down. However, we will remove all art at the author's request regardless of license, provided we can reasonably verify that you're the real author..."
http://opengameart.org/content/faq#q-changelicense
"...We encourage you to respect the wishes of the artist if they decide to change the license on their work, however you are under absolutely no obligation to do so, because the license you obtained it under is irrevocable..."
Welcome! I've used LÖVE some. :)
Excellent contribution. If you have any questions, just ask. Everyone's pretty willing to help out.
@Styno333: looks like the Voxel pack.
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